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FTX execs blew through $8B โ€” testimony reveals how::Sam Bankman-Fried and other FTX executives spent $8 billion worth of customer funds on real estate, venture capital investments, campaign donations,

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[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

They could've been massively rich running the exchange the legit way, but no... it's always more, more, more... now, now, now.

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

It was a crypto exchange, I don't think there is a "legit way" to run one of those.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

My understanding is the exchange itself wasn't really their downfall. Their downfall was was using the money deposited with them or invested into their company to gamble on risky trading with an affiliated investment firm. They kind of ran this firm, it was supposed to be separate but really wasn't. It sounds like at least $10 billion was moved from the exchange to this investment firm, who lost most of it. Didn't help that the main thing that firm was involved in was.... buying crypto of course. In an incestuous ouroboros of fraud.

But yeah I think you're right, even if they hadn't engaged in all that fraud, how does an exchange determine how much money in usd and different cryptocurrencies to keep on hand to safely cover all depositors with them when there is such dramatic volatility in all the different cryptocurrency values? Every crypto exchange is probably doomed to a massive dramatic collapse at some point or another just from a volatility standpoint alone. Not to mention the massive underlying issues with many cryptocurrencies like wasting energy, wasting resources, co2 generation. Hard to argue there's such a thing as a "legit" exchange.

[-] the_ocs@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

how does an exchange determine how much money in usd and different cryptocurrencies to keep on hand to safely cover all depositors with them when there is such dramatic volatility in all the different cryptocurrency values?

If you move 1 BTC to an exchange, and you keep it in your account on the exchange, the exchange is meant to keep the 1 BTC on behalf of you.

They are not meant to do anything other than keep it.

An exchange is not a bank.

If the exchange takes your tokens (or fiat) and does anything other than what you ask them to do, they're not legit.

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