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US president says ‘the court once again walked away from decades of precedent’, as Democrats decry supreme court’s affirmative action ruling

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I think this was probably the correct ruling.

If you are considering race as part of a college admissions, then you are NECESSARILY racist. You're not picking the best applicants, you're picking the best applications of a race mix you want.

Now, I'll be the first to say that certain minorities are under-represented in colleges. But that's not necessarily the fault of the admissions process. If the admissions process truly is race-blind, as it should be, then we should be asking why fewer people of whatever race are showing up as competitive candidates. And that brings us to the REAL problems- that a lot of minority applicants come from poor neighborhoods with bad primary education, crap high schools full of gangs and drugs, and few resources like books and computers and other opportunities to excel. And THAT is the problem we should be fixing.

[-] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We are still playing catch-up to millennia worth of oppression. Rectifying historical disadvantages and creating a more inclusive learning environment are both boons that will benefit us in the long run. I don't think it's fair to call that racism. I agree with the need to fund primary education of these communities, that is very needed. I don't necessarily agree with (maybe I'm reading into your message a bit) that colleges don't heavily weigh all the other factors that they do for white people.
As an added bonus, why diverse teams are smarter

[-] wagesj45@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of noise that will surround this ruling due to the culture-war nature it lends itself to, but the really sinister thing in my opinion is just how off the rails this supreme court is. There is no rhyme or reason, they're just making shit up to fit whatever political/social outcome they personally want. Our country can survive a shit ruling. We can't survive one coequal branch of government losing all validity.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

You don't have to sell me on the merits of diversity. I agree diversity is important.

I want to rectify those historical issues. But doing that in college admissions is too late. It's like being on a crashing airplane, and sticking gum on the altimeter to stop it from spinning down. It doesn't fix the real problem. And the real problem is the cycle of poverty that grips former red-line neighborhoods. And that cycle persists continually because whenever someone gets enough money to afford it they leave the neighborhood so it stays a slum forever.
Fixing that will cost billions. It will need education, job training, family support, social services, drug rehab, and JOBS so the people have some light at the end of the tunnel. If you're gonna tell a 18yo gang member to hang up his illegal Glock and bust ass in school so he can get a job at Burger King, he's gonna say fuck that imma keep slinging dope and if I'm dead by 30 at least I ain't broke.

I call it racist because if you let Harvard dictate a race admissions profile like we want at least 50% minority students, then you necessarily have to let a racist college dictate a race admissions profile like we want at least 97% white students. And if you let colleges favor black people but not white people, that's literally the definition of racist law (law that favors one race over another).

Racism has done terrible things to our nation. More racism is not the right answer to fix it.

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