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[-] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago

There have been some pretty extensive studies that indicate that when you give poor people money, they become less poor. When you give poor people enough money to live on, they stop being poor. It’s a radical concept, but it’s also the truth.

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 17 points 11 months ago

Yeah UBI would solve this. This might be a criticism of contemporary capitalism, but it isn't a critique of capitalism more broadly because in principle, capitalism can have a UBI.

More fruitful anti-capitalist critiques emphasize workplace authoritarianism, the employer's appropriation of the whole product of a firm, monopoly power associated with private ownership especially of land and natural resources, and inability to effectively allocate resources towards public goods

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

A strike can last much longer if workers are not worried about their bread and roof.

Even without organization, a secure worker can bargain harder for higher wages and better conditions.

[-] kevinbacon@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Aaaaand there it is, the reason they fight so hard to keep you from that security.

Nonviolence won't solve this.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I hope that the worst kinds of conflict prove avoidable, but historically, there is always someone who fires the first shots.

The Haymarket affair illustrates the matter quite well.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Rights are won with blood, not money; those with money need no rights, and those who need rights have no money.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

Good news is that a UBI doesn't provide enough for most people to keep striking.

What would really kill them if if that money were focused on unemployment. Actually incentivize people to not work (permanently if they want) so they have free automatic leverage. You wouldn't mean minimum wage anymore because companies would be begging you to work.

I prefer "plans for all" in most things, but I actually think housing+food+healthcare for all but Basic Income for unemployed only would be ideal.

Imagine if one day every minimum-wage worker woke up and was told they'd make $30k/yr by putting in their resignation. Bet you workplace quality would skyrocket and companies would start offering living wages yesterday.

Course, that's why that won't happen either, I guess.

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