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[โ€“] lonewolfhashashinOKEPICMODE@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (22 children)

I hate how political the ICJ is becoming. It used to be about arresting African leaders.

[โ€“] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

๐Ÿค“ uhh I believe you're thinking of the ICC

https://iccforum.com/africa

[โ€“] lonewolfhashashinOKEPICMODE@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the Hague, if you're not kidding

[โ€“] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not kidding, other than making a nerd-shit technical point.

Both the ICJ and ICC are located in The Hague. The ICC is the one with the reputation for excessive focus on Africa and the one the U.S. has legislation against (The "Hague Invasion Act").

[โ€“] lonewolfhashashinOKEPICMODE@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay so the ICJ is the part that's more for negotiating UN shit?

[โ€“] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Countries are the parties in the ICJ, which dates to the founding of the UN and includes almost every country (if not every country, period). One country has to bring an action against another (see South Africa's case against Israel). The subject matter can be criminal or civil -- I think most ICJ cases have been the latter, think territorial or fishing rights disputes.

The ICC was founded in 2002, a bunch of major countries (including the U.S., Russia, and China) aren't signatories, and it (not specific countries) prosecutes individuals for international crimes (so no civil disputes).

[โ€“] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

if not every country, period

Pretty much, yes. Article 93 makes all UN members parties to the court's statute.

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