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This is kind of wild to me.
(In the US) When movie companies were trying to force sites to turn over IPs of people discussing piracy? Fuck that shit.
But the actual victim of a crime turning over an IP address they have as a necessary part of the fraudulent transaction not being allowed?
From the article, the cop laments that telecoms are no longer handing over IP addresses when requested. Now police are being forced to obtain search warrants, like they would need to in order to tap your phone or read your mail. This seems like a consistent application of privacy law and a safeguard against law enforcement abuse of power. Seems like an absolute win to me.
This isn't the police reading your mail. It's you receiving a package with a dead rat and a threat in it and not being allowed to give it to the police until they get a warrant.
The people they asked for an IP were directly affected by the crime. They were victims. The idea that they need permission from the court to turn over evidence of a fraud against them is completely fucking insane.
Where are you getting this nonsense from?
Read the article.
They weren't asking some random third party for information. The payment processor is a clear and direct victim of the fraud. Fraud costs them a lot of money every year.
It is impossible for the victim of a crime to ever not be entitled to turn over every bit of information that they have about the crime. There is no scenario where you have an expectation of privacy from the person you're actively committing a crime against.