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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Vanguard, the controversial anti-cheat software initially attached to Valorant, is now also coming to League of Legends.

Summary:

The article discusses Riot Games' requirement for players to install their Vanguard anti-cheat software, which runs at the kernel level, in order to play their games such as League of Legends and Valorant. The software aims to combat cheating by scanning for known vulnerabilities and blocking them, as well as monitoring for suspicious activity while the game is being played. However, the use of kernel-level software raises concerns about privacy and security, as it grants the company complete access to users' devices.

The article highlights that Riot Games is owned by Tencent, a Chinese tech giant that has been involved in censorship and surveillance activities in China. This raises concerns that Vanguard could potentially be used for similar purposes, such as monitoring players' activity and restricting free speech in-game.

Ultimately, the decision to install Vanguard rests with players, but the article urges caution and encourages players to consider the potential risks and implications before doing so.

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[-] ChefKalash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

After studying operative systems this semester, it's crazy that developers are really out there giving level 0 privileges to an application program.

Get that shit far, far away from my machines

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[-] nymwit@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

Can you run games like this in a virtual machine? Would that eliminate kernel level general invasiveness concerns because it's a...virtual kernel I guess? Does that virtualization require too much overhead to run demanding games?

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

Well, that's the end of TFT for me.

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[-] levmyskin@feddit.it 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think the main issue here (I haven't seen it mentioned in the top comments) is that LoL doesn't even have a cheating problem honestly. I've been playing since 2014, off and on, and I think I might have met maybe one scripter (I'm not really sure). Lol has definitely a toxicity problem, but I honestly don't think it has ever had a scripters/cheaters problem, so I really don't understand this. Is it because of bot accounts? Whose games are these bots ruining (never seen them between gold-diamond)? Does it justify a kernel level anti cheat? Honestly, the real problem with this is not the kernel level anti cheat (because I guess that might be useful for games like valorant), it's the fact that this was never really even close to be necessary

Edit: interestingly enough, riot games itself was reporting in 2020 that cheaters and scripters were ruining a very minor fraction of the games. Ref: https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-anti-cheat-in-lol-more/

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 17 points 6 months ago

Kernel level anti-cheat is never justified.

Other than that, true!

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[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 6 months ago

Guess nows as good a time as any to uninstall this trash.

Their garbage anti cheat has done barely anything to improve valorant and now they want more control of my computer for league?

Die in a fire, trash.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

You cannot make a paper that can have any text written onto, but not the one text you don't like. The only way to do it is to spy on someone and check actively what is being written.

You cannot make a computer that can run any program written into, but not the one program you don't like. The only way to do it is to spy on someone eather physically or via lower level spyware.

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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a geopolitical side note to all this, there is a small but real chance that we may be going to war with (Edit: China) someday in the future, over Taiwan.

Do you really want an adversary that can potentionally disable a large portion of your populations computers in one fell swoop?

Edit: Because of Tencent's ownership of Riot, which is a Chinese company.

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[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

No thanks, I'll stick to dota 2 and cs2. Everyone else should do the same, this kernel level anti cheat doesn't even work. Well, no anti cheat is perfect, but vanguard isn't any better than any other anti cheat. All it's doing is collecting data about your computer and running at an insanely invasive level.

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