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Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[–] teruma@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

On the one hand, I hate the right's bullshit. But, on the other hand, there was some comfort in having the ability to keep tabs on them. If they pick a different space, it'll be harder to anticipate what they're planning.

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[–] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Nooooo! People have different opinions to me! They better not join Lemmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How can someone honestly claim to be “in the middle” when one side openly embraces Nazis, sexism, and other forms of bigotry? What’s the middle ground there?

There’s a difference between needing a safe space and not wanting to hang out with the KKK.

[–] ycnz@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They only want to murder half of all trans people, not all?

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[–] ilgrandelenin@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Online commies are the absolute worst. They made me realize I was an anarchist all along. It's incredible how much time they spend being angry about pointless shit that no one cares about, like people using slurs online. They can't help it but act like tiny dictators whenever they get the chance, by ganging up on anyone who doesn't subscribe to their specific flavor of groupthink. And the thing that irks me the most is that it's not even about left or right. It's not about the poor or the rich, or the means of production, or people being exploited, or anything tangentially related to the economy. It's all social justice. American identity politics. Issues that become less and less tangible the further you get from the anglosphere.

And they live in their echo chambers, and whenever their worldview is challenged they start posting insane takes like "Lemmy being functionally dead is actually good because I can't get offended on behalf of someone else if no one is posting anything"

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the kind of dumb trash that makes me apolitical. Just like being athiest, I think having extreme beliefs that privileges abstract ideologies over real humanity activitely makes people less empathetic and more dangerous.

The breadth of the human experience is so much bigger than the desparate shouts of politicians and their distracted followers.

Even if communism in its platonic form is closer to a humane government system than capitalism, I still don't want to be constantly exposed to it.

Why, because political discussions are more concerned with complaining about a flawed system - AKA a flawed group of people erroneously granted too much power - than it is actually about solving problems.

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Caring about humanity is why I care about politics, though. Politics is the vehicle through which humanity's fate is decided. If you don't participate in it, you allow people who do to run roughshod over you. Politics decides whether your country goes to war or not, whether people die in poverty or not, whether the climate apocalypse kills us all or not.

Note that by politics I do not necessarily mean electoralism. Voting is a stopgap measure at best. But there's much more to politics than voting and elections.

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[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll admit that I struggled to figure out Mastodon when twitter changed hands. For me it was either too confusing or not worth figuring out. Maybe it was just the nature of it being more about personal posts, so each server was much more different.

I had no such trouble with Lemmy/Beehaw. Drop-in replacement. That said, I don't think I'm a communist? I'm not a raging capitalist either though? I'm just kinda here.

[–] Treevan@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you joined beehaw, you aren't exposed to lemmygrad which is what they may be talking about. Some of them are far, far left and because they outnumbered other Lemmy users, the general vibe of viewing posts was a little extreme.

They are dropping away on the community browser so they may be relegated to niche rather than dominant as more users join.

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone who is far, far left, I just want to say that Lemmygrad doesn't represent us all. The libertarian left is very different.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ditto. I'd call myself a socialist, but they're so far "left" they're far right again, imo. Pro-dictators and forceful subjugation and whatnot. Tankies. Not really sure what makes them left at all, really, except by virtue of the word communism and the fact that everyone seems to have agreed they are.

At least, assuming this crowd is the same as similar crowds I am familiar with - I'll admit I have not explored lemmygrad much, and I don't particularly intend to.

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