Is the bot/troll situation getting worse? (lemmy.giftedmc.com)

submitted 10 months ago by haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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It feels like the amount of both, divisive posts and ghoulish comments is rising again.

One could argue that the world has a lot of divisive stuff going on and lemmy just talks about it. But the way people post about stuff seems more oot and hateful than it has been in the past.

Not saying it is that but if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can.

I'm blocking ghouls left right and center atm but if I ever asked a friend to join lemmy, I'd hate to think of what they would see that I dont anymore.

Do we need stronger moderation?

Maybe ban politics from c/memes?
Become a little more stringent on "dont be a jerk" rules in communities?

One thing that really bothers me is the collapsing "discourse". Trying to mend fences and keep the conversation between sides going ime leads to nothing but downvotes and shitstorm.

I feel like a little more interaction (instead of intervention, at first) of the moderators would do wonders there.

Thanks for reading this rant. Have a nice day.

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[-] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can

Agree. And that's been my experience here too. I made two posts critical of reddit and they each seemed to have been astroturfed by toxic reddit shills.

I think it would require a lot of active and dedicated mods and admins, which I'm doubtful is doable. I don't know that there's a fix for this but a "true block" (instead of the current "mute") might help; but there are major downsides to that type of feature as well. I wrote in a blog that it might require an advanced AI to moderate everything.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I made two posts critical of reddit and they each seemed to have been astroturfed by toxic reddit shills.

Here or at Reddit? I have never ever ever seen proof that Lemmy is pro-Reddit at anything. Like, most of the people here migrated from Reddit on bad terms with them.

[-] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Here. Strangely, on Reddit I get much more support. Lemmy is either filled with trolls or is being astroturfed by people who don't want to see it thrive.

I have never ever ever seen proof that Lemmy is pro-Reddit at anything.

Here's the latest time it happened: https://lemmy.world/post/11328086

The previous one was deleted, which unfortunately covered it up.

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[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe because I don’t use Lemmy at real bot hours, I haven’t seen them. Maybe see a spam bot every other day.

I also tend to sort by top 6 hours or top 12 hours so a lot of low effort content gets filtered out.

I also don’t consider people who make off the wall comments or hold opinions I disagree with or think are uniformed or stupid as trolls.

The other thing is that I comment with the philosophy that not every comment signifies a response and so if a reply is a troll or in bad faith, I just keep scrolling.

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

As the fediverse becomes more and more of a feasible alternative to corporate social media, it will be inevitable that trolls and spammers will use our platform for malicious things. All we can do is to get better at moderation, maybe somehow bust these farms.

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Just so everyone is aware, this is the thread OP interpreted as so abusive it would warrant banning this person across multiple instances.

In this thread, you’ll notice that another user dares to disagree with haui_lemmy. haui_lemmy interprets that as trolling, and goes on a crusade to purge the entire lemmyverse of dissent.

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[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Half of the traffic everywhere is bots:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1264226/human-and-bot-web-traffic-share/

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Nah, things seem okay. I've noticed more politics misinformation since it's an election year.

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[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I was about to left Lemmy/Kbin for good when some stupid fascists from Lemmy(grad).ml called me names and harassed me, despite the fact that I'm neurodivergent (like that would stop them from doing such actions, but anyway). And then I started blocking every community and user from those places, as well as any community/magazine about US politics or about any US topic because I don't give a damn heck about that place. And my experience improved really well.

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[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago

Try to find an instance that bans trolls?

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 10 months ago

I am on my own instance and I ban them but if someone joins world, they’re f*cked. I feel like the communities are very lenient which is fine in normal situations but when peeps start shitting on others (be it religion, ideology or others) they should act. Just my two cents though.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah.

I guess we can't just direct friends to "Lemmy" in general and instead should direct them to beehaw.org, or your instance, or wherever there is the kind of moderation we agree with. From there our friends can see a filtered view of the communities on lemmy.world.

If the biggest instance has a libertarian mod policy that does mean "more selective" instances need to put in more work but on the positive side it does provide a more diverse pool of people and content to sift through.

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