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[-] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Feel like this is an oversimplification. It's not about the lack of politics, but the lack of immediately relatable politics.

Plus if you have certain view points I can imagine you don't like seeing them being presented as an obvious antagonist. It probably makes certain groups of people rather uncomfortable.

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Immediately relatable to whom?

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Some one once asked "what is a politic"

To the people that complain about things being political what they mean "i dissagree, why are you being devisive".

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The original book which Star Wars is based upon and came out before the movie, describes the Emperor as Nixon.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

which Star Wars is based upon

Why would you come here just to lie?

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

At the end of the novel, in addition to Han Solo and Luke receiving medals, Leia also gives Chewbacca a medal, though she must strain to do so

Objectively better than the movie.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The problem with Star Trek politics is that they are not stereotypical enough.

I'm obviously referring to TNG, the only true Star Trek.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Arguably, Star Trek is less political. Picard never violently overthrows the Federation. Q never massacres entire planets. Janeway doesn't practice literal mind control. The equivalent of all of those is done in both Star Wars and Dune, often by the protagonists.

Edit: Chill out guys. I wasn't claiming Trek isn't political. Obviously it is. Sometimes it very much is. My thinking was just that (usually, not always) the show is usually self contained episodically, and deals with everything from natural phenomenon, science, philosophy, exploration, law, and, of course at times, politics. Star Wars and Dune are just often more directly dealing with massive scale political conflicts. Not that Trek doesn't sometimes too, it's just not its main thing.

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I would argue with the implication that the degree to which a story is political is gauged by how violent (in the broad sense) the political actions are. Something can be extremely pacifistic or extremely democratic for example. In star trek you have a tremendous numer of stories where non-violent political actions like diplomacy, legislation, or legal argument are the main focus of the story and hugely consequential, for an entire people, an entire species, or the entire galaxy.

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