This is why centralized communications platforms are an issue. He who control's the communication channels controls what people see and hear, and what they know.
It's why the Fox network, and later Fox News was started. It's why Bezos bought the WaPo. It's why no mainstream news site will challenge corporate ownership of the media.
Steve ~~Huffman~~ Goebbels
Let's not.
Alternative explanation: People for whom this is important are left reddit and are here, upvoting, discussing. People who do not care are still no Reddit and because they don't care, they are not upvoting or discussing such things.
To be honest, I am not sure I believe myself to this explanation, but I wanted to mention it. Who knows.
I see no reason it can't be both. Reddit doesn't want people to care, and people on reddit in fact don't care.
If you are just learning now that the admins manipulate the site in any way that they please you are late to the party. Reminds me of Spez editing users comments.
It's one thing to hear about this manipulation and another to experience it though. The moment reddit restored my comments multiple times I knew how fucked Reddit really was/is.
wait. They did that? I thought that my reddact 'forgot' to delete some comments...
edit :
Nevermind, I just went on reddit to check this. All my comments had been deleted except some that Reddact changed with nonsense stuff such as :
relieved growth consider smoggy oil disgusted crowd water mysterious tender -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
Could be your old comments were in private subs that went public again.
You can't edit or delete posts in a private community
@Delete I'm not just learning that admins manipulate Reddit, I've been there since the Digg exodus, I'm just making an observation about the form that manipulation is currently taking. I hope this is acceptable.
It’s kinda ironic how literally all our communication from spez was through media, not reddit
Seems to be the way CEOs do it nowadays. A friend of mine works in tech and heard about her company downsizing after the CEO announced it to the media. Absolutely zero communication with the company's staff before hand.
Ngl this sucks
Eat the rich?
@hiyaaaaa23 It's because he's only worried about broader public perception, not the opinions of his own users (except insofar as those impact that public perception). So he goes to the mainstream news media, especially after seeing he didn't have any talent for engaging with the Reddit community in that AMA. The dude's worried about his IPO, and he should be.
There was a pretty nasty article on Reuters which I would consider a nail in the IPO's coffin.
Emphasis mine:
Thousands of moderators overseeing the site’s so-called subreddits are on strike. It’s a wrinkle in Reddit’s plan to go public, and a sign that plan is premature.
When Reuters says that, it means that everyone else knows their schedule to IPO (at minimum) is dead in the water unless they want to have the most laughable initial offering in history.
Long-term, their ability to recover from this seems mostly dependent upon the power users who moderate, and generate meaningful content's willingness to stick around.
Those who remain indifferent are unlikely to fall within the group specified above.
tells you a lot. he considers himself far above us
i wonder how he'd feel if some rich fucks decided to destroy his hobbies and any passion he felt for them
The world through spez's dead eyes:
Spez is the King, appointed by God (the board). The mods are landed gentry, who rule small fiefdoms (subreddits) at the pleasure of the King. The King doesn't pay them, but as long as they don't upset the King they're allowed to abuse the commoners (arbitrary bans, etc) and extract profit from them (sell out to companies that want control over the moderation of subreddits.)
wonder how he'd feel if some rich fucks decided to destroy his hobbies
To be fair, the jailbait sub is long gone.
Booooooooooom roasted
Haha except for that stupid AMA where he answered like four softball questions.
I mean it's even hard to find some content not related to Reddit here imo.
I wish people would just move on and just post something else. Trying to upvote things that are original content in the ssort by new feed, hopefully it will envolve
I get your frustration, but I think for now these reddit-related news have their place here.
It'll calm down eventually, of course.
I upvoted all the Reddit stuff, but to support your efforts I‘ll calm down on that a bit.
I definitely get your frustration but that whole outrage is still pretty fresh and we need that momentum to really move people from Reddit and join here. It'll calm eventually.
@whyNotSquirrel I agree with you generally, even though I think it makes sense there's still a lot of Reddit-related news, given this is all going down right now. What honestly bothers me more is when I see a wall of posts that are just about the forum/site/server I'm on, e.g. on Squabbles I swear half the front page at any given time is just users praising the site admin or suggesting new features. I get it, but I feel like the sign of a healthy online community is seeing people posting a variety of interesting content on different topics and having engaged discussions about them. That's why I've been coming to Kbin more and more.
It has taken over r/technology basically
What are you talking about. Go to global /r/popular, "Reddit is in crisis as prominent moderators loudly protest the company’s treatment of developers" is 6th on the front page right now. Did you just post this without checking what you were typing or what
I just checked /r/All and /r/Popular and after scrolling the whole first page I have 1 porn post on /r/interestingasfuck and a /r/technology post talking about the hacker blackmail event. So I am seeing two relating to the protest as of now.
However, I scrolled a few pages on /r/Popular and am not seeing the post you're referring to. It is ~15 minutes later as I'm replying to your comment, so maybe that particular thread is gone?
Edit: I did just see a /r/memes post that references the protest too on /r/Popular I missed earlier.
I've just rechecked and it's now fallen off front page - it was this: https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/14coqxp/reddit_is_in_crisis_as_prominent_moderators/
It was "23 hours old" when I posted that comment earlier, it's now "1 day old", so I assume it dropped down in the rankings because of that. But it was on the front page when this post was made
Reddit has lost all credibility
so basically reddit may be having a 1984 moment
Weirder still - they won't let you control your own speech due to poor data and systems architecture (at best).
The way their API and database is set up only indexes a portion of your comments, and forbids you from accessing them if another "authority" cuts you off (private subs) - which leaves your ability to delete, modify, or otherwise manage what you have input into the site.
I wouldn't be shocked if there were keywords or sites being critical or mentioning Reddit getting botvoted or just shadow banned outright.
I noticed this as well and of course they're censoring it. Reddit wants to go public baby! No friendly fire!
I do wish there was a filter, I already blocked the dedicated reddit magz
What do you expect? Reddit at this point is the digital equivalent of a totalitarian dictatorship. Just without the mass murder aspect. Not that u/spez wouldn't be on board with that if he could.
That was my thoughts too, anyone out of the loop on the whole situation wouldn't really notice anything is happening unless they went to a sub participating in the blackout/protests. Reddit looks totally normal on the surface
Normal. Like Pyongyang.
Amen.
Maybe its just the subs I ftontpage, but my Reddit front-page is pretty full of it.
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