EU is making a new law which makes your IP the same as (something similar to) your social security number and they say piracy is going to receive a huge blow. Obviously I have no intention of stopping but now I'll have to start using a VPN, if I want to continue my way. However, I do not trust VPNs a lot and I do not like the idea of paying for them (I could just pay for the movie in the first place)

I looked into using Tor network to torrent but it seems like it'd be a hindrance to the network itself, which is going to be a huge inconvenience for other users. Additionally I know that even if I found a way to throttle my bandwidth to remove this problem, Tor isn't exactly made for this sort of thing anyways.

Now, obviously it doesn't have to be torrenting, but I would gladly hear any suggestions on how to avoid paying and getting movies and shows without being caught doing it. Truthfully I was only streaming from websites for many years, so I do not know a lot about torrenting vs direct downloading either. Thanks in advance for any responses.

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[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where have you heard about this nonsense law?

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

I corrected it in my replies, maybe I should have corrected the post itself too, the law is in effect in my country, Greece. There are multiple articles about it and everyone is discussing it here in the country. Apologies for any confusion.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a lifestyle, not a way to save money. I pay for piracy related tech more than a netflix subscription costs.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This. I don't do much but I have spent $1,200 on HDDs alone. Then there's the true saviors of the internet with hundreds of TB, even PB of backed up, virus-free content

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I don’t do much but I have spent $1,200 on HDDs alone.

this might interest you when its ready in a couple months. this is exactly the issue its working toward resolving.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yo, 2 things:

I too heard that about Greece, but I couldnt find any article about it, only stuff I heard from others which they probably read them on FB. Do you have any (reputable) article coverthing this? I just considered those roumors it as fearmongering and moved on.
Yo, since I haven't seen you around, just to know, we have a sonewhat active greek community at https://fedia.io/m/Greece

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hey, thanks for the heads up on the Greek community, I'll be giving that a visit for sure. Also yes, I can find articles that are trustworthy but they are all in Greek, sadly xD. I might look again sometime though, will let you know!

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

but they are all in Greek

Haha sure, send me the greek ones, μπορω να τα διαβασω:)

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.athinorama.gr/cinema/3042948/ti-isxuei-me-to-neo-nomo-kata-tis-peirateias-kai-pos-mas-epireazei/

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

[Btw, I'm not a lawer, just because my comment is long don't consider it correct:)]

Tl;dr: From what I understand, they're gonna ask the internet providers (though it might also include vpn providers, streaming services etc.) any info about you that they consider necessary (so you could assume anything they have about you). So my opinion is, if you have a proper vpn that follows the zero-trust model, it should probably protect you. The main new thing here is that it has become illegal to consume pirated media (instead of only sharing them).

In the article you posted, there's the governmental announcement too:

https://search.et.gr/el/fek/?fekId=777704

From the article you posted:

Όπως διαβάζουμε στο σχετικό νόμο: "Αρμόδιες για τον έλεγχο της εφαρμογής των διατάξεων του παρόντος νόμου και την επιβολή των προβλεπόμενων κυρώσεων είναι η Ανεξάρτητη Αρχή Δημοσίων Εσόδων, η Γενική Διεύθυνση του Σώματος Δίωξης Οικονομικού Εγκλήματος, η Διυπηρεσιακή Μονάδα Ελέγχου Αγοράς, οι Αστυνομικές, Λιμενικές και Τελωνειακές Αρχές, οι οποίες μετά τη διαπίστωση της παράβασης, ενημερώνουν τους δικαιούχους μέσω του Οργανισμού Πνευματικής Ιδιοκτησίας. Για τη διαπίστωση των διοικητικών παραβάσεων της παρ. 2Β και την επιβολή των διοικητικών προστίμων επιτρέπεται από τις αρμόδιες δικαστικές αρχές η διαβίβαση προς τις αρχές του πρώτου εδαφίου, των αναγκαίων στοιχείων για την ταυτοποίηση των παραβατών, τα οποία συνελέγησαν και περιέχονται σε ποινική δικογραφία που σχηματίσθηκε κατόπιν άσκησης ποινικής δίωξης για τα εγκλήματα του άρθρου 66. Αντίστοιχα, οι αρχές του πρώτου εδαφίου δύνανται, με σκοπό τη διαπίστωση των διοικητικών παραβάσεων της παρ. 2Β και την επιβολή των αντίστοιχων κυρώσεων, να ζητούν από τους παρόχους της παρ. 10Α του άρθρου 66Ε, οποιοδήποτε απαραίτητο στοιχείο για την ταυτοποίηση των προσώπων που παραβιάζουν τα δικαιώματα της παρ. 2Β".

I couldnt find what is defined as providers in Paragraph 10A from article 66E (this should be stated in pages 583-585)

From what I understand, they're gonna ask the internet providers (though it might also include vpn providers, streaming services etc.) any info about you that they consider necessary (so you could assume anything they have about you). So my opinion is, if you have a proper vpn that follows the zero-trust model, it should probably protect you. The main new thing here is that it has become illegal to consume pirated media (instead of only sharing them).

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey, I understand this already but your input on the proper VPN is very much appreciated! This law seems sketchy to me, especially after another user on this thread pointed out that it violated gdpr. Honestly I know I really need to take my whole privacy into consideration and not just this tidbit but I have little time at the moment to properly set something decent up. That might also mean getting a VPN, lol. It is comforting to at least know that a proper VPN should cover me.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, there are vpns that say that they dont keep logs and allow portforwarding. Check out a recent post in this community about vpns: https://lemmy.zip/post/34924276

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Try Tailscale.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

I use Tor to get magnet links and feed them to my clearnet torrenting client, no issues so far and the ISP would have to breach my privacy to provide my IP.

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