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Using Radeon HD 5450 and Firefox ESR (128.10.1esr - 64-bit) on Debian 12. Javascript pop-ups appear very slowly (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 1 month ago by KickassWomen@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.world

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Is this issue related to my ancient 15-year-old graphics card, my browser, or something else?

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[+] MRLimcon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Making those changes didn't resolve the problem

[+] MRLimcon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is apparently the latest version of Firefox ESR that's available in Debian's repository.

I used these commands to update Debian:

sudo apt update -y && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove

Here's the output:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://flatpak.org/setup/Debian

Once you have Flatpak setup you can run sudo flatpak install firefox

Also, is there a reason you are using Debian? If that's what you want then that is fine but it isn't something people use for the new packages.

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Once you have Flatpak setup you can run sudo flatpak install firefox

I already have Flatpak installed and it has the same problem as Firefox ESR (which comes with Debian by default, if my memory serves me correctly)

Also, is there a reason you are using Debian? If that’s what you want then that is fine but it isn’t something people use for the new packages.

I have used Debian-based distros in the past like Mint and Ubuntu so I wanted to use Debian itself out of curiosity.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just my troubleshooting tips:

Can you run a benchmark, maybe this one, so we can see it it's really a general thing not just something on that website? Also we can compare it to other computers, or you can see if changing a setting helps at all.

Can you see something strange in about:processes? Shift+Esc is its keyboard shortcut.

Can you try it in other browsers? Something Chrome like (Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi). Does this happen there as well?

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you run a benchmark, maybe this one

Can you see something strange in about:processes?

I can't find anything suspicious but here's a snippet of it:

Can you try it in other browsers?

I used Ungoogled Chromium and it opens the pop-ups smoothly (so Firefox is causing the problem):

Clip

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why the benchmark is at 90fps? What happens if you lower your monitor refresh rate to 60?

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lowered my monitor's refresh rate to 60 Hz and it didn't resolve the issue

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also lower it in the DE settings. Are you on wayland?

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I changed it via Debian's Settings app.

I'm using X11 and Gnome.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

It's most likely the CPU or less likely a browser bug.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why are you using the ESR version?

I would either add the Mozilla repo or install the Flatpak

Edit: I saw your other comments

What desktop are you on?

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have Flatpak Firefox and it's giving me the same issue as Firefox ESR.

I'm using Firefox ESR because Flatpak Firefox started freezing after a couple of updates and ESR is super stable.

As for my desktop: Gnome - X11

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Have you tried switching to Wayland?

Log out and select the Wayland

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't find that option in my login screen's gear icon menu. I think that the reason why I can't use Wayland is because I have a Radeon HD5450 graphics card that is 15 years old.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Wayland doesn't care much about underlying hardware as that's abstracted away by the kernel level stuff.

Are you using GDM?

Edit: https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland#GNOME_.28supported_since_3.20.2B-.29

It looks like Wayland is the default

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the rest of the hardware? Tried disabling hardware acceleration and see if it makes a difference?

[–] KickassWomen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I disabled recommended performance settings and hardware acceleration in Firefox and I'm still experiencing this issue:

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 1 month ago

Then it's not the GPU, as it doesn't appear to be using it in the first place.