It's not for me but as long as it's clearly labelled, can be blocked by anyone who doesn't want to see that stuff, and there aren't dozens of them popping up every day then I don't see a problem with allowing it.
I assume scat means shit? Poop? Is that right?
Just a user here, but I'd say a small subset of users in other instances are already asking to defederate from this instance for some of the basic communities that show up, like gonewild. I just don't see allowing a fetish "at this time" being helpful to the situation.
The mod tools are not there yet, even if you added the ability to opt-in on just this instance. If someone subscribes to the community from a different instance it will show up for ALL USERS on the all feed for that instance. And well, thats just shitty (pun intended) for those who don't like the kink but want to see nsfw communities. Now you've put the problem on the users who must choose to block the community.
So, while I'm a big supporter of kinks, I am not in support of allowing it on lemmy today. voted accordingly.
If someone subscribes to the community from a different instance it will show up for ALL USERS on the all feed for that instance.
Wow, that seems like something that needs to be changed ASAP.
That's a feature, not a bug, though there's some debate on the Lemmy GitHub about the wisdom of locally caching federated nsfw content.
Just let them have their own community. If this is supposed to be THE goto NSFW lemmy instance you shouldn't ban NSFW content as long as it doesn't break any laws.
I'm on a tracker that allows scat and there's a userscript to filter it out based on tags. Seems to work well for everyone. Maybe there's a similar solution for Lemmy?
someone explain to me how this is different from banning gay porn?
Same argument of the gore ban applies: https://feddit.it/comment/128064
The main problem with NSFL is that you should only find it if you're looking for it. I have noproblemi with it once better mod tools, instance or community options pop up with lemmy updates. As of now, I vote to ban it
Who are you to define what is nsfl. There are people in here arguing consensual non consent is nsfl. How long till furry or trans communities are banned too
Not a fan of scat, but it's harmless to me so I'm in favor of allowing it but blocking it on my own.
As long as it stays on dedicated communities, I don't really care if it sticks around. I just block the community from showing up on my feed.
Tbh I'd rather not see it, and feel like it falls under nsfl (which doesn't have to be illegal either).
I understand that it's a thing, but as someone else described it, it's like nsfw+. There's a huge range of nsfw from bikini shots to this or other stuff.
I guess I can always just watch the subscribed feed but that prevents natural discovery, and it's not the default.
So I suggest... Asking people to refrain from posting it for the time being until better filters exist. It's not exactly fair I know, but it's not like it's the only category that's questionable like that.
The problem is that some of the categories of images that people might not want to pop up in their feed are very vanilla, e.g. dick pics are not kinky or extreme, just not something a lot of straight guys and lesbian women want in their feed. So should they also not be posted? What about feet? Some might not want giant pictures of feet on their screen. Or maybe rough sex? Some people also really don't like cuckolding, so no pictures with captions or post titles for that? Where does it end?
Sure but then on the other hand, gore is banned, and that can exist in artistic nsfw forms too.
It's not everything or nothing. Or if it is, then I'd rather have everything.
I don't have anything against any kinks, I just think there are levels to it and scat is beyond the line of comfort of most people. There are loooots of categories that probably wouldn't even make it to lemmynsfw so it's not like I'm singling out just this.
That doesn't make it bad, it's just something I suggest showing only to people who actively look for it. And Lemmy doesn't have such tools at the moment.
Not personally my kink (kinda the opposite actually) but I'm loving all the perverts here having a constructive conversation about poop porn lol.
Lemmy on y'all
Allow it. If I have to look at gay furry porn you fuckers can deal with scat.
This should be entirely up to the people that have to moderate it, as they're the ones who are being forced to view the content
Can someone link the definition of NSFL? The one I'm familiar with would not cover this.
As a side note, I recognize that the limitations and immaturity of the tools/code will force us to make rules and exceptions we don't like. Even if it is banned, it should be revisited later when better capabilities are available
NSFL stands for Not Safe For Life. While NSFW covers things that are generally considered socially acceptable in private situations, but inappropriate for more public or formal situations, NSFL is for stuff that could be traumatizing or deeply disturbing, even in a private context.
Stuff like extreme violence or abuse can be more obvious examples of NSFL, but stuff like scat is more of a gray (well, gray-ish brown) area.
Ultimately, the issue is that this place needs a more sophisticated filtering system.
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