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All this new excitement with Lemmy and federation has got me thinking that maybe I should learn to run my own instance. What always comes up though is how email is the orginal federated technology.

I am looking at proxmox and see that is has a built in email server, so now I am wondering if it is time to role my own.

I stopped using gmail a long time ago, and right now I use ProtonMail, but I am super frustrated with the dumb limitation of only having a single account for the app. I get why they do it, and I am willing to pay, but it is pricey and I don't know if that is my best option. I guess it is worth it since ProtonVPN is included. It looks like they are expanding their suite.

Is it worth it? Can I make it secure? Is it stupid to run it off a local computer on my home network?

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[–] DyXen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hello, I'm selfhosting mailserver with mailcow in docker container. Its easy to setup. I have static IPv4 and domain. Thats all.

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[–] Robbie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

E-mail was the first "thing" that got me off of Google (to Proton & then currently Tutanota) but is really the last remaining service I not have self hosted.

I have always read about how difficult and time consuimg it was to run your own mail server, but I felt like I needed to experience it myself. So I purchased another domain and followed the instructions on https://mailinabox.email/.

I am using a small VPS on Hetzner and I have to say the experience has been almost flawless so far. I did need to have my new domain taken off the Domain Block List, but Hetzner gave me a clean IP and defaults to blocking port 25 outbound to prevent spam (simple ticket to open, once account is 30 days old and paid).

I know I'm still early into this journey so far, but it has been really simple and I plan to test this secondary domain for a few months before moving onto it full time.

As an avid self hosted of literally everything else, I can say it has been a lot of fun learning so far!

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[–] PM_ME_FLUFFY_SHIBES@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I used to but all the tweaking with DKIM etc rules took a bit too much of my time. Now I'm using Zoho Mail to host email on my own domain.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I run my own email server using Mailcow. It works well.

However, I do not even attempt to directly send outbound email. It's very difficult to get your server trusted by the major providers, especially Microsoft (who are very picky about email servers). I have an account with MXRoute (which is an email provider) but only use it for outbound relaying. Inbound emails go directly to my server.

For what it's worth, MXRoute is a great provider to consider if you want to move away from the large ones (Google, Microsoft, etc) but don't want to self-host.

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[–] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to run my own using Modoboa. I've since switched to mxroute for my email.

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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I did but I stopped. My server had everything set up (DKIM, DMARC, SPF, Spam filtering) but I gave up after some providers wanted me to jump through hoops to get my mail delivered. Also I never had enough outgoing mail to build some reputation.

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[–] taur10@venera.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@DidacticDumbass I use hosted email from Polaris Email, $25/yr, and my domain from Porkbun at $5 for the first year, and access the mail through Thunderbird on phone and computer.

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[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well i kinda did that when i started selfhosting way too much a number of years ago... it can be quite annoying trying to get your server out of blocklists (if you need to change servers, because of ip reusing from hosters) and unless you use something like Servercow, it is easy to break things and it kinda hard to find proper tooling for selfservice and stuff.. nowadays i mostly keep it like it is because i don't want to deal with trying to migrate people to a different setup. It's okey and most of the time it just does it job, but it doesn't give too much joy :P

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Hah. Not the fun DIY project I hoped it would be. Oh well. Yeah, don't want to get to the point of being responsible for other people's data.

[–] Tempiz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope. It can’t really be self hosted anymore, as having a residential IP is a straight track to the spam folder. It can be done if you also pay for a mail relay service, but then what’s the point of self hosting when you need to rely on a cloud service anyways.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Some dreams are born dead.

[–] emhl@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I use https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver with sendgrid.com as an SMTP relay (recieving emails is easy, sending them successfully is a pain)

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[–] SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.at 2 points 2 years ago

Very interesting. Thanks for the follow up.

[–] Thewanderer@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm using openbsd with dovcot, opensmtpd on a pi. I used mailhardener to get it scoring well. I've had no issues with it getting flagged.

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[–] NochMehrG@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't. But I do have my domain and use a hosted solution, so I'm kind of independent and own my data.

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