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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by And009@vlemmy.net to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Most of the discussion and sources of content talk about movies and series.

I've been recently looking for psy and techno music, finding FLAC or WAV with active seeders feels like striking gold. It's definitely been a while since I've looked for active torrent sites and it feels more barren than ever.

Edit: Thank you all for all that valuable information. The reddit group really wasn't this helpful and valued making fun over adding real use able knowledge.

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[-] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does ViMusic/Spotube count? They're alternative youtube music/spotify front ends with no ads. If so, then I'd say piracy is still going strong!

[-] And009@vlemmy.net 5 points 1 year ago

I am subscribed to streaming services. Just want offline files in slightly higher quality. I find 768kbps+ to be perfect on high end gear. Streaming is great for 320kbps equivalent.

It doesn't matter on the go because even a slight outside noise would mask any kind of pseudo or real gains in sound quality.

[-] Fantasmita@lib.lgbt 6 points 1 year ago

I just find the music theme that I desire to have on Spotify or YT, and then I ripoff from there. Pretty easy.

[-] user224 4 points 1 year ago

I would recommend this website: https://free-mp3-download.net/ which is also listed in the megathread.
It takes music from Deezer in HIFI quality (FLAC 16/44). You can either download it as FLAC (lossless, but also large), MP3 320K or MP3 128K. Even the same bitrate will give you better quality since you're not re-encoding from lossy source.
From my experience, it doesn't accept characters like apostrophes in the search box. Hyphens are fine.

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[-] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Dying is an overstatement, I'm sure the scene is there.

But it's not as popular as most people are generally able to easily access all the music they want legally for reasonable prices.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I only dig for music on discogs.

#vinyllife

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[-] Watcher@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

I use a modded spotify on ms smartphone but also downloaded some playlists with onthespot and that's all I need

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[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I think a subscription to Spotify, Apple Music, etc is that one subscription most are willing to pay and never give up because it's so convenient, and fairly cheap. I'd rather give up every other subscription before I even considered giving up Spotify.

Music piracy is still there, but it's just not as convenient these days.

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 5 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's easier than ever. I just rip official album playlists from Youtube Music. Quality should be on par with what you get from Spotify or iTunes. Personally, I've never found any official sources for music that doesn't use lossy compression, so I don't feel like it's possible to miss much by doing it like this.

[-] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

I used yt-dl for downloading, but since I have a decent flat, I switched to just using yt music with adblocker or revanced.

What benefits do torrents of music provide over just downloading from yt?

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[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Music piracy is doing just fine, it's just that the balance of opinion seems to be that M4A is fine. You can even download M4A files from YouTube nowadays.

[-] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Psychedelic trance is an awesome, but absolutely niche genre. It's enjoyed by only a handful of people on earth, and made by even fewer. With sites like rupsy and psy-music going dark this sort of stuff is getting really hard to find. Having said that, it's one of the few genres I don't mind paying the money for a good release - it's niche as fuck. The real problem lays with identifying what IS a good release.

Last time I checked there were still new psy releases popping up on rutracker from time to time. Streaming basically sucks for psy, and most mainstream trackers absolutely suck for psy and techno.

There might be some cool new site that the doofers are hiding out on and we're out of the loop ;p

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[-] DireSkye@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Music piracy is definitely less healthy but I doubt it'll ever die. Streaming services cant seem to make their services as easy as free options. I left spotify because they dont have the catalog of youtube. And i didnt even get past the free trial of youtube music because their app wouldn't play half the songs on my already made playlists for unknown reasons. Why pay for a lesser experience when I can NewPipe for free and it works great.

[-] dasprii@lemmy.froztbyte.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Deemix is how I get access to .flac downloads. Yea, I still am paying for Deezer, but it's also technically still piracy. I have 345.7 GiB of music downloaded currently on my NAS and I play it with DeadBeeF or foobar2k if I'm on Windows.

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[-] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

I'd love to hear about any places to look for this. I sometimes want to download some favourite songs, just in case they go down on any music services or youtube.

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[-] illumrial@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The thing about it is that Spotify premium to me isn't that expensive and has everything I need

[-] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Spotify has basically nothing I've ever tried to actively listen to. It's also missing tracks of larger artists. It's also still subject to licensing which means what you have saved isn't guaranteed to be there forever (unless you're using a spotify downloader, I guess. I don't know why you would if you feel comfortable enough paying for it but not enough that you won't still download them?). Personally, to me it seems crazy to pay $10 a month for music I'm probably going to listen to for each month for the rest of my life? People always say it's great for discovery but I don't see how it's any better than any other avenue of finding new artists and releases. The convenience of an online app isn't very convenient for me, it being streamed is something that affects me on road trips and I'd need to have the foresight to download something, vs permanently having the songs on my phone (or a step further, microSD cards filled with music.) Like it was before? Just like Google Photos, if I can host my own photo backup on my computer why am I paying someone else an exorbitant fee? I can take this even further, I have Plex setup (and other music servers) and use Plexamp which is essentially my curated Spotify. Bonus: I have my core music on my phone, I have extra music streaming to me.

It also doesn't seem to be sustainable, each yeah Spotify operates at a loss while artists get very little payout from it. More than if you pirated from them, sure, but much less than if you just buy the album directly from their options be it physical or digital, or buy just one concert ticket and one merch item.

All this said, as with most things these are subjective case by case freedoms. Many get what they need from it and that's good enough and they're happy. Others just like to rip it all themselves and setup bubbleuPnP servers, and some probably are still just only playing CD's through their car that doesn't have AUX or bluetooth. If your decision to listen to an artist with the intent to give them your money, you probably should buy things from them instead of listening to them exclusively on Spotify you pay for. If your decision to listen to music is to just hear stuff, discovery, and it has even just 60% of a catalog of songs you'd listen to, the convenience is probably worth paying for. Especially given that technically the alternatives I've mentioned have an upfront cost of a computer and hard drives - for what it's worth only the cost of 2 years of Spotify and ~2 to 4 hours of setup time, but still a larger cost nonetheless.

That's worth it for some, they just prefer having it all physical/digitally stored and accessible for sampling and playback, the discovery and library probably aren't as deep as what they're looking for.

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[-] SaltySalamander@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

finding FLAC or WAV with active seeders feels like striking gold

Not if you're on the right tracker(s)...really should try and get into RED and/or Orpheus.

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