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A place for Progressive Muslims of all sects and schools of thought. We seek to foster an atmosphere of understanding, tolerance, and peace between all peoples.


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BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS: https://reddit.com/r/progressive_islam/w/recommended_reading


RECOMENDED YOUTUBE CHANNELS:

Let the Quran Speak: https://m.youtube.com/user/QuranSpeaks

Ghamidi Center of Islamic Learning: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC1isGGyqPXxGb3i_Tr6agHg

Mufti Abu Layth: https://m.youtube.com/user/MadinanPath

Adnan Ibrahim: https://m.youtube.com/user/shaikhAdnanIbrahim

The Usuli Institute: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCacZ3k2AOpd5-3tdCxcDmgQ

Search For Beauty: https://m.youtube.com/user/TheScholarofthehouse

Qur'anic Islam: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCu4AdsljkcfdGYm8kqi3Bzw

Al-Mawrid Official: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCHDtHmCv7QIcc7Ye1jhKC_A

Al Mawrid Hind: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCUpgAaom7CiLGVaj2Yw_Vbg

Dr Shehzad Saleem - English: https://m.youtube.com/user/shehzadsaleem

AboDana Tv: https://m.youtube.com/user/aymanghayad

Ziryab Jamal: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC7RnUA3Dy_X0sYmukwFhVZw/featured

DrAdnanIbrahimEng: https://m.youtube.com/user/DrAdnanIbrahimEng

Dr Khalid Zaheer: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCBqEJFY5tswFYXTuUYVNGrw

Hamza Ali Abbasi: https://m.youtube.com/user/TheHaa1

Noor's Notes: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCs89viU2Xf2zJ8qj3Z7bmNg

Mohsen Kadivar: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCiX1ltrZNuMWKjfWyO3nZ6g


RECOMMENDED WEBSITES:

THE SEARCH FOR BEAUTY: https://www.searchforbeauty.org/

THE USULI INSTITUTE: https://www.usuli.org/

QURAN SPEAKS: https://www.quranspeaks.com/

AL-MAWRID.ORG: https://www.al-mawrid.org/

GHAMIDI.ORG: https://www.ghamidi.org/

EXPLORING ISLAM: https://www.exploring-islam.com/

ADNANIBRAHIM.COM: http://www.adnanibrahim.net/

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As someone who also helps moderate this space, I wanted to invite members of progressive_islam to check out !queer_muslims@lemmy.blahaj.zone

– a supportive, affirming community specifically for queer Muslims.


Whether you’re looking to:

Talk about your day with others who understand both your faith and your identity 🌙✨

Ask questions and get advice from people who get it 💬

Share your thoughts on life, politics, art, culture, or spirituality 🎨📖⚧


This is a space where you can be fully yourself.

We hold respect as our highest value – hate, bigotry, and harassment have no place here.


🫂 Come as you are. Your voice matters. Your story matters.

You belong.

Hope to see you there!

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Salaam friends,

I hope you're all doing well.

I created this space to support open, inclusive, and thoughtful discussion around Islam from a progressive perspective — a place where people can explore faith, justice, identity, and community without fear of gatekeeping or bigotry.


But right now, I'm finding it hard to keep up.

I'm already moderating several other communities across Lemmy (including on other instances), and it's starting to take a toll, both to my Mental Health, as well as the stress of it all.


If you care about this space and want to help keep it active, welcoming, and safe, I’d love to have you join as a mod.

Experience is great, but not required — just a commitment to the values of respect, inclusion, and growth.

Feel free to comment down below, if you're interested!

Peace and solidarity, – Teknevra

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As the title says, I'm looking for some potential mods to help run this community.

If you are interested, then please drop a comment to this post explaining why you believe that you would be a good fit for mod.

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By: u/Taffles57

Verses 4:11–12 explain Islamic inheritance laws:

“Allah commands you regarding your children: the share of the male will be twice that of the female. If you leave only two ˹or more˺ females, their share is two-thirds of the estate. But if there is only one female, her share will be one-half. Each parent is entitled to one-sixth if you leave offspring. But if you are childless and your parents are the only heirs, then your mother will receive one-third. But if you leave siblings, then your mother will receive one-sixth—after the fulfilment of bequests and debts. ˹Be fair to˺ your parents and children, as you do not ˹fully˺ know who is more beneficial to you. ˹This is˺ an obligation from Allah. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

You will inherit half of what your wives leave if they are childless. But if they have children, then ˹your share is˺ one-fourth of the estate—after the fulfilment of bequests and debts. And your wives will inherit one-fourth of what you leave if you are childless. But if you have children, then your wives will receive one-eighth of your estate—after the fulfilment of bequests and debts. And if a man or a woman leaves neither parents nor children but only a brother or a sister ˹from their mother’s side˺, they will each inherit one-sixth, but if they are more than one, they ˹all˺ will share one-third of the estate—after the fulfilment of bequests and debts without harm ˹to the heirs˺. ˹This is˺ a commandment from Allah. And Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.”

My concern is the following:

In the case of a man dying, leaving two or more daughters, a mother, a father and a wife, the verses denote that the man’s estate is divided like this:

• 2/3 for the daughters

• 2/6 for the parents

• 1/8 for the wife

2/3 + 2/6 + 1/8 = 9/8; 112.5% of the man’s estate; impossible.

Some translations say “…your wives will receive one-eighth of what you leave…” which might mean one-eight after all other inheritance is paid. And one-eight of nothing is nothing, getting rid of the mathematical error. But I don’t know I don’t speak Arabic so I don’t know if that’s what it’s really saying, and why would the wives only get an eight of what little money is left? That doesn’t really seem fair.

And scholars have devised a system to proportionally lower the inheritance, given something like this happens.

Someone explain this please…

(edit: I could be wrong about the scholar thing, feel free to correct me, I just wanna learn)

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u/LogicalAwareness9361

I’ve seen a lot of people say that dressing modestly (abaya and hijab) is actually a lot cooler during the summertime, but that’s just not true for my personal experience or friends that I know.

Wearing hijab during the summertime (and I’m only in Canada - can’t imagine a warmer climate) was SO unbearably hard I always felt like I was suffocating and about to pass out.

I had friends who refused to leave the house because of how uncomfortable it was.

At what point do we accept that Allah didn’t intend for intense hardship on women?

A common sentiment of encouragement from other Muslims was usually “well if you can’t handle this heat, how could you handle the hellfire?”

And I just can’t understand that. I do understand that this life is a test and we should struggle and strive for goodness but at what point does it stop being a struggle / striving and start just being torturous ?

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By: u/ImpossibleContact218

So my mom, a pretty cultural/traditional Muslim, always forbid me from shaping/plucking my eyebrows because of the Hadith that the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) cursed those women who shaped/plucked their eyebrows.

But just now, she said she read a Daleel online that the Hadith was referencing those women who would pluck/shape their eyebrows to suggest that they were prostitutes.

Basically, plucked eyebrows were a sign of prostitution and the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was cursing prostitution.

So in that context, it wasn't about a woman plucking her brows = hellfire.

It was: don't emulate sex workers to attract immoral attention in a society where that meant danger, objectification, and exploitation.

Very different message.

And my mom finally agreed that plucking/shaping eyebrows is fine :D

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By: u/Samandarkaikareeb

It broke my heart this morning to read that Prof David Suzuki says we are too late to prevent climate change.

https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/07/02/its-too-late-david-suzuki-says-the-fight-against-climate-change-is-lost/

This precious, pale blue dot, hanging like a mote of dust in the vast blackness of space is the only home we have. Teeming with life. And we are busy burning it down to the ground.

The Finnish government has sent a letter to its citizens telling them to prepare for natural disasters like flood etc.

Prof Suzuki says that governments won't be able to cope with the scale of the natural disasters that are coming. Governments won't be able to get help to people on the scale needed. The Professor says that its local communities that will need to pool their resources to survive.

It's getting real.

Muslims ought to have been the vanguard of the environmental protection movement. Some have tried, and others are still trying.

The Saudis could have made Umrah and Hajj into opportunity to teach the Ummah about caring for the environment. I aporeciate accommodating millions of visitors a year is a gargantuan task. But Makkah was a designated a "Hima" a millenia and a half ago - a sanctuary where it was forbidden to kill a fly or to cut down a tree. The leadership could have sought to turn the pilgrimages into "soft" teaching and advocacy moments. Millions of people a year returning home to every corner of the globe with a new or refreshed call to action to take care of this precious blue ball of life called Earth.

But despite Prof Suzuki's statement, I think of the hadith that tells Muslims if we find ourselves wirh a palm tree seedling in our hand but Judgement Day comes upon us - we should plant it. It's a metaphor that works on multiple levels. And it's apt for the times we are in.

It's going to take each and every one of us doing our utmost to limit the damage. We have to be the vanguard in our families and communities.

If you love this world, and all it provides you with. Do it a favour today. Tell someone.

Tell someone how you noticed yourself taking a deep breath under a tree, how a beautiful landscape captivated you, at the gratitude you felt to have clean water to drink and food to eat.

I think curiousity follows on from gratitdue: we start to be curious about how we have what we have. Curiousity leads to exploration, which leads to discovery, all of which is a journey which leads to knowledge and growth.

We have so much scientific heritage as Muslims. I pray we can recover as an Ummah and get to work to save this planet, and ourselves.

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By: u/maessof

Middle East Eye www.middleeasteye.net Mufti Menk, a Zionist rabbi and the politics of faith-washing in Dubai

He will post a little about Palestine when pressured.

He has never once named Israel.

He called Sudan a civil war.

And then whenever he's in trouble he posts videos of himself doing charity to wash he's reputation.

He does not encourage protests.

He does not encourage boycotts.

He does not encourage people to even post.

He's career is to be a moral leader, why is he not behaving like a moral leader

Why is he doing so little. Why can't he even name Israel What contract has he signed with the devil.

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By: u/Suspicious-Draw-3750

Yesterday I was with friends and we talked about the past, especially how the people in school are developing. I then heard that someone made fun of a guy in my year back then because he didn’t know the shahada.

I was sad to hear something like this. I mean we don’t know his circumstances and such to judge it. Yes, he was a born Muslim but we don’t know his household.

I then said: I could make fun of the person mocking the other person. I know more than them but don’t. I think that we shouldn’t judge based on knowledge since the actions of a believer are what makes them a believer and not their knowledge. Only Allah knows who is getting punished and who isn’t and who is closer and who isn’t.

So in the end I want to say, don’t judge others due to their knowledge and try to refrain. Rather actions like their behavior are more of interest but even the we should be careful not to make assumptions

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And the fact this made it to the front pages of Reddit...

I don't know why these so called Muslims think it's halal and doing a favor to Allah by killing their daughters.

By: u/ImpossibleContact218

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By: u/CobustulusA

What would he think of us who don’t fall in the category of traditional muslims?

Such as those who don’t wear the hijab, who shave, who listen/make music, etc.

Would he look favourably on this community, or not?

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By: u/Brown_Leviathan

Ibn Battuta, the famous medieval Muslim traveller, narrated how he accidentally drank alcoholic beer with fellow Muslims during his travels, when he was in Turkey. This happened because the local people followed the Hanafi school of thought, which allowed grain-based alcohol, while Ibn Battuta's Maliki school forbade all alcoholic beverages. In his own words, "When I went out I made enquiry about it and they said 'It is nabidh [a fermented drink] which they make from dugi grain.' These people are Hanafis and nabidh is permissible according to their doctrine."

The Qur'an uses the word "Khamr" for prohibited alcoholic beverages. According to some early scholars like Abu Hanifa, "Khamr" literally means wine made of grapes or dates, and does not include not all other drinks. According to Abu Hanifa, alcoholic beverages made from honey, figs, wheat, maize or barley are permissible if consumed below the point of intoxication. Later Hanafi scholars eventually abrogated Abu Hanifa's ruling and adopted a general prohibition of all alcoholic beverages, most likely due to pressure from other schools of jurisprudence.

The early Kufan Hanafi jurist Ibrâhîm al-Nakha'î (d. 96/715-6) asserts that the public has misinterpreted the Prophet's statement that drinks "that intoxicate in large quantities are forbidden in small quantities" (i.e., the 'large/small' tradition)." Ibrahim explains that the Prophet meant to forbid intoxication rather than intoxicants.

The prominent Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd al-Jadd (d. 520/1126) states that "Khamr is that which intoxicates and overwhelms the intellect". There is a controversial and disputed narration, wherein the Prophet instructs Abu Musa to "drink but do not become Intoxicated". (Ibn Rushd al-Hafid, Bidaya, 2:914)

It is also well known that the famous Muslim philosopher and physician Ibn Sina (Avicenna) would often drink wine. He acknowledged the health benefits of drinking wine in moderation.

It is often claimed that Ottoman sultan-caliph Abdülhamid II would occasionally and privately savor a glass of cognac at his doctors’ orders.

A few years ago, a prominent Qatar-based Muslim scholar, Yousuf Al Qaradawi declared:

“An alcohol volume of up to 5/1000 or 0.5% in a drink has no significance in making it haram [prohibited]. It is a very small quantity, especially if it results from natural fermentation and is not manufactured."

Considering the totality of facts and arguments, I would say that the strict level of taboo and prohibition that today Islamic scholars have imposed upon the Muslims was not always the case historically.

Let me know what you guys think.

Please refer to:

  1. 'Angels Tapping at the Wine-shop's Door: A History of Alcohol in the Islamic World' by Rudi Matthee.
  2. Haider, N. (2013). Contesting intoxication: Early juristic debates over the lawfulness of alcoholic beverages. Islamic L. & Soc'y, 20, 48.
  3. 'The Odyssey of Ibn Battuta: Uncommon Tales of a Medieval Adventurer', by David Waines
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By: u/No-Action3492

Recently I converted to Islam and started practicing. I have always been fascinated by different cultures and religions (especially Islam).

I converted because I found that Islam made far more sense than Christianity and also I did not like the way Islam was being portrayed and Muslims were being treated in the west.

Another reason I converted was to find a sense of community as I never had many friends growing up.

However as I started becoming more religious, I started becoming extremely depressed and anxious about the hellfire.

I’ve noticed that the vast majority of Muslims seem to take the Qu’ran and Hadith literally and very often harbour disgusting views (such as towards gay people, women, other sects of Islam and towards non Muslims), views which certainly aren’t compatible in a modern society and quite frankly it doesn’t make any sense to take holy texts literally such as miracles mentioned in them which couldn’t have happened scientifically and also nobody actually knows what happens when we die.

Something that really bothers me though is how many Muslims (not all) see non Muslims as evil people destined for hell even if they were good people and that people who don’t pray will go to hell which gives me a lot of anxiety even if that sounds irrational.

Also virtually everything fun and enjoyable in life (I.e: music, birthday celebrations, owning a pet dog) is viewed as haram by these Salafists (who unfortunately seem to be the mainstream from my experience).

So for now I’ve decided not to practice any religion although I don’t agree with ex Muslims either because they seem to be very bitter individuals and spread hate against Islam as a whole which is not my intention as I know Islam was originally meant to be a force for good even if it’s been warped by Salafists today.

I also think it’s better and more logical to view the Qu’ran as the inspired word of Allah rather than Allah’s literal word.

I might look into Sufism in the future as it seems to be much more calmer and peaceful than mainstream Islam.

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By: u/ImaginaryGur2086

...everything bad that is talked about Islam is not in the Qur'an but in the Hadith.

I have never seen anyone trying to disprove or find something against Islam in the Qur'an.

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By: u/ManiacEngineGlitxz

How does anyone get 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep during summers in most places in the world?

This is max 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep.

Im really struggling to see the reasoning around prayer times and things like qibla in general - are we still praying towards the Kabbah when we go to space? Why?

Even Hajj when Saudi Arabia is a extremely oppressive terrifying monarchy that works directly with billionaires to consolidate global hegemony and has gained its wealth from powering the Oil backed dollar and climate change at large - killing journalists, dissenters and criminalizing everything but strict observance to the most traditionalist fascistic interpretation of Islam.

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By: u/NoWhile3145

What are your thoughts on this?

“Agnostic muslim” sounds contradictory but isnt.

i believe that us as humans we have no ability to test God's existence, we cant leave our universe and take a look above, and we cant use any equipment to detect God, means we cant prove Gods existence or disprove it. (We cant prove both religion or Atheism ).

But i choose to believe in God, idk what it is, but i choose to, and I practice islam, pray and everything.

My belief made sense to me, because even in islam’s teachings, life is a test, God is meant to be hidden, it wouldn’t be a test if the answer is right there would it?

Yes God sent down prophets and miracles, as messengers and hints, but some accuse them of mental illness or any other reason.

I thought i was just a normal muslim, but apparently Im not, Im an “Agnostic theist” by definition.

Agnosticism = a philosophical stance, that the matter or Gods existence is unknown or unknownable, whether right now, or in general.

I thought us as belivers only belive not know, I mean isn’t this the whole point? And why it is called “belief” (Iman) in the first place?

But Apparently not. Other theists and muslims don’t think like me, they either believe that the scripture is enough and clear evidence, or that they don’t need evidence they just know it in their hearts.

I dont “know” it, I just believe it, somethings i genuinely believe and somethings I try to. But I cant fool myself to know any of it.

Am I still muslim? Thoughts?

Edit: definitions

Belief = thinking that something is true.

Knowledge = a belief that is justified with evidence.

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By: u/TryingNoToBeOpressed

They are mentioned in the Quran, but are we supposed to believe that they literally exist?

Personally, I'm not sure...I find it difficult to accept that such a supernatural being can exist.

I'm not sure what I believe.

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With the recent win of Zohran Mamdani, it got me thinking on how he won the hearts of people in one of the most popular places on earth, what's even astonishing is the fact New York has the most Jews after Tel-Aviv and with everything that's happening in Gaza, he simply made the unthinkable a reality and progressive phase of Islam has a big role in his victory.

The way he held all communities together regardless of the conflicts and how he managed the heat by presenting himself before any community with the very idea of peace and promising a better future for humanity, this is indeed the very idea of Islam. let me rephrase it "progressive Islam"

Coz currently the ideas that are sold in the name of Islam is very much that of the extremists and is quite literally flawed. Extremists that are the wahabi/salafi community who were born through the betrayal of Islamic world— tbough the Islamic world was weak and had it flaws in its latter stages then but was never anything as the extremists we see today

The extremists right from their bonding with the colonial powers, inherited everything evil they had, which has truly led to the defamation of this very religion as well and there's truly a reason the Arab nations which are all in bed with deep wahabism never ever has tried to save Gaza for once.

They are truly a cult, that never have any true faith nor any politics within them but follows the leaders and scholars who were installed by the kings of their nations, who only works in the best interest of the capitalist clowns of the west as well and that says it all.

And how exactly are the extremists any different from the Zionists— who sees themselves superior to anyone, just like the extremists of this religion who calls anyone that's doesn't comply with them "kuffar" and thinks they are the only version that's gonna enter heaven somehow, how secluded mindset.

Lets not forget, when prophet was the leader of Madinah he used to give the ruling for the Jews based upon their sacred book and for Christians based on Gospels as well and so on for every other minority community and this was the true Islam, the Islam for humanity.

And indeed this is exactly what progressive Islam is as well and Zohran is just the beginning of this very ideology.

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This guy simply has brought Muslims a long way and been successful in portraying a better picture of Islam and Muslims, on how it has always preferred for the wellness of the humanity, oh but yes the extremists who are the slaves to the capitalists wanna talk trash on him now, how absurd and stupid!

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