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Lord of the Flies is bullshit. When a group of boys actually got stranded together, they peacefully cooperated with each other to solve their problems.
Not every group is going to adapt and react the same way though. It’s not out of the realm of possibilities for the lord of the flies situation to happen, but what’s the rate. 10%? 1%? 50%?
Partly the issue with N=1 statistics.
True. It is plausible. At the same time I have to think that if the human race hasn't evolved to factor cooperation in tribes in most cases, we wouldn't be here discussing this.
Cooperation is beneficial to each individual's survival when most in the population are cooperative. Pragmatic self-interest is beneficial to each individual's survival when most in the population are selfish and pragmatic. I think most people tend to be cooperative, but there are plenty who will opportunistically fuck over cooperative people. The results would probably depend on the tendencies of the majority of the individuals in that situation.
It depends entirely on how much established power the individual fucking over the others has.
If it's as ephemeral as holding a seashell, they'll probably get their shit beat in. But if it's far more established and hierarchical, yeah they'll end up with more power over the others.
I kinda want the next one to a prison barge, just get the normal situation and and the massive outlier as the first two, just to mess with it for the next dozen until the pattern forms.