SchmidtGenetics

But helicopters don’t fly, they’re just so ugly the earth repels them.

How is providing completely false information and arguing when responded to is helping? And then when asked for the source, it doesn’t even say the same thing.

Is it being defensive to call someone’s bullshit out?

they weren’t the only ones giving that advice.

Did you notice the other user finally understood the method I was going for? They noticed their advice wasn’t needed after a little back and forth discussion, THIS user on the other hand…. As the other user said “general convention” I’m not going for general, and pruning changes things, like the persons “sources” state unequivocally. And yet you seem to miss this detail somehow too.

I’m not looking for advice (did you see me asking for any), and I’m not looking for praise and admiration (did you see me ask for any), I am sharing my method and process of growing, which is established on proven science, not some basic guidelines with no supporting research, the research exists, but wasn’t in their sources. And some user started spouting bullshit, so yes, I’m going to say something to prevent others from thinking it’s right.

Eventually you just wanted to win an online argument you created.

What…? They’re the ones arguing and I didn’t create it.

They opted out and you're still going.

They are the ones continuing to respond, even after pointing out their source agrees that pruning changes the “guideline”, not minimum numbers.

If you’re not just an alt of this user, you should really try reading the thread fully. And I’m sorry that you’re taking their comment to heart, instead of reading the sources that disagree with their comments.

Tomatoes aren’t like carrots, where there is actually direct consequences that you can’t address by planting too close together, the persons knowledge is pretty darn basic, and they’re burying their head in the sand to anything more complex than what’s on the back of the seed packages.

there could even be a leak…

Autoignition temperature of natural gas is above 500c. Need a spark, or enough heat, there could even be a leak and this not be enough heat to ignite.

It’s common, this picture essentially explains why building codes exist, and why you don’t hire the cheapest contractor, since they probably aren’t licensed.

This would apply to natural wildfires as well.

An Isaac Asimov collection called “The Wonderful Worlds of Science Fiction - Intergalactic Empires I”

It covers some stories about Empires, that he quantifies as having a “rational historical backround” and says his Foundation series is the first to do so in 1942.

One of the stories is his own, and is Foundation adjacent, just takes place in his universe, it’s titled “Blind Alley”

Linky

After this it’s the next Star Wars book which is “Children of the Jedi”

Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

You’re the epitome of this quote, that’s not an easy feat to accomplish, well done.

You can’t just Google something and paste it without comprehending it, doubly so when it proves the other persons point.

Maybe you could have learned something today, instead you chose ignorance.

Than why is the word “prune” so hard for you to comprehend? Your “paper” (not a scientific paper) says pruning changes these numbers. It also goes and says 12” for one of its bullet points. It also says it’s a complex interaction, which I’ve used to rebuke your claims in every comment.

So you either didn’t read your source before posting it, or can’t comprehend the words in it. Nothing you’ve posted actually supports what you’ve claimed. It supports my claims quite well though.

You also showed your inability to read when I told you the planter direction, and than you said you didn’t know the sun path. Fucking yeesh buddy, give it up.

Did you miss that part of their source that agrees with me…? Dude couldn’t even read his own sources before pasting them.

It specifies pruning changes those numbers, I’ve mentioned every comment I am pruning. And that same “paper” (not an actually scientific paper)even says 12” is fine for some tomato’s… so yeah, he’s wrong and I’m right going by those specifics.

It also says it’s a complicated interaction and not simple, that’s what I said.

Their sources literally prove their claims wrong, not right. Lol.

I even provided the quoted portion in my comment where the “paper” (not a paper like I asked for) said that.

From your own link, read them instead of just googling some terms and pasting the ai result.

The ideal spacing for tomato plants depends on the growth habit of the variety and whether plants will be pruned:

Notice the key word pruning there…?

And the word ideal…? Not an actual minimum…? They do everything to say there isn’t actually a minimum, and there’s too many variables.

lol, lmfao even. I knew the paper would be flawed or point out the issue with what you’ve been saying or comprehending about it.

Science says 24”…? Please provide this paper, would love to see it and its supporting documents. Determinate and indeterminate have different spaces to begin with, so that’s just obviously bullshit lol.

That’s average “guidelines” anyways, and even some tomato plants say 16, and some say 36”, its each individual cultivar. But it all comes down to root mass to canopy size, a plant only has X energy to give, too many fruiting sites, and you have small shitty fruits. This is basic plant botany even. As I said, it’s far more complicated than you are making it.

And if you have read my comments, it’s quite clear I know I need to address some stuff, which is stuff you need to do ANYWAYS to tomato plants. So yeah…? Of course I do.

Do you want to mention I need to water them once in a while too? Maybe weed them as well?