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Ukraine moves Christmas from January 7 to December 25 (thenewdaily.com.au)

submitted 1 year ago by LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

I got narrative but isn’t Jan 7 is orthodox thing not Russia/soviet thing. I mean, I don’t care how people celebrate their imaginary friends but it just weird

[-] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The ROC [Russian Orthodox Church] currently claims exclusive jurisdiction over the Eastern Orthodox Christians, irrespective of their ethnic background, who reside in the former member republics of the Soviet Union, excluding Georgia.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church

Politics and religion have always been one and the same: the reason there are two creation myths in Genesis (and many other duplicate tales) is because authors from both Israel and Judea wrote them, often with the aim of elevating their interpretation of Yahweh/El and lowering the importance of the other kingdom. We have Protestantism because an English king got pissy.

This is no different. The Russian church claims dominion over Kiev and they are rejecting that, much moreso than they have in previous years. The ROC is acting as one more arm of the Kremlin and trying to use religion to spread influence.

[-] abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Do Ukrainians generally subscribe to Russian Orthodox specifically? My 20 seconds of Wikipedia seem to indicate that the "Orthodox Vatican" is in Turkey so it's not like any holy whatever is owned by Russia? I obviously have no clue what I'm talking about

[-] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

There is no Orthodox Vatican. While the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople is first among equals Orthodox church comprises self-governing canonical areas. The majority of Orthodox patriarchates fall under either Russian, Greek or Constantinople Patriarchates. The Orthodox Patriarchate of Ukraine has fallen under Russian Patriarchate since early modern times but the Patriarchate of Kyiv existed before Muscovite Patriarchate. There has been multiple attempts to return it under Greek Patriarchate with varying success but they have been separate although not recognized by Russian Patriarchate since 2018.

And that was probably as many times as I have ever written Patriarchate on one text.

[-] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So one could say that the Orthodox Church is federated 😎

[-] abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Very interesting that the power isn't so centralized in Orthodox Christianity. Catholicism is so strangely archaic and centralized....I guess I just assumed the same of Orthodox.

Well fuckin neato. TIL.