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[-] teft@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In order to milk a cow you need to get the cow pregnant once every year. Doesn’t matter if it’s a factory farm or mom and pop, you still have to get the cow pregnant to get her to produce milk and that isn’t the cows choice. Personally i drink milk but i can see their point in regards to the cow having no choice in the matter.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 months ago

And to add to that, getting her pregnant naturally means she with give birth to a veal. This veal will be sold off shortly after birth and either killed or raised and then killed. There's no milk without continuous death of cows.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I actually did not know that so thanks for the information. My knowledge ended at that (apparently false?) quote from Meet The Parents about anything being milkable. And thanks for not attacking me - I think I'm immoral, too, but I'm fighting 30+ years of a carnivorous diet.

I cut milk out of my diet years ago. I failed my first attempt at veganism so I'm taking it one step at a time now and it's been working for me...slowly, but progress is progress. If that lab-made cheese I read about lives up to the hype, I think 5 years is realistic for me.

It's hard. I have a lot of respect for people who went cold turkey (no pun intended) on meat/dairy.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

If it's any consolation, I don't feel like many people go cold turkey. It was tons of baby steps for me, too. It requires going out of one's comfort zone to try out some vegan food. And if your comfort zone is big enough in that direction, then it doesn't hurt anymore to leave a slice of meat/dairy comfort zone behind.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's tough. I will probably not be able to even be fully commit until my parents pass because there is no way I'm going to ask my mom to not cook the meals she's made every Christmas since I was a kid.

But I think I'm ok with that..I'm not trying to win a contest or anything. I've already stopped cooking meat at home and next step is to stop ordering it when I go out.

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