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N.B. misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed (uninternalize your reddit MRA today: men suffer some drawbacks under the patriarchy but ultimately still maintain it due to the large amount of privileges they receive under it!)

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[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Misandry definitely isn't a systemic issue but I feel the need to push back to say: men are systemically oppressed. The whole point of the concept of patriarchy is that while the form is different both men and women can be both oppressed and oppressors under it. Part of the entire reason why MRAs are completely full of shit is that basically all of the issues they are concerned with, to the extent that they are real issues, (ie family court) can all be traced back to patriarchy and capitalism.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Any oppressor-oppressed relationship inherently limits the human condition, but the oppressor always has more to lose than to gain. Feminism is good for men as humans as they will be able to wear whatever they want and have whatever sort of relationships they want with whoever. But it also means giving up higher wages, rape, etc. so it's no wonder a lot (not all) of men don't see feminism as a net benefit to themselves.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it also means giving up higher wages

lol who's getting high wages?

any economic damage to "men" would be far outweighed by the gains we all make under socialism outside of a small handful of people everyone on this website would kill if we could.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really not know about the wage gap? Women make less money than men.

And yes, I explicitly said #notallmen because communist men are smart enough to know socialism would be more economically advantageous anyway, and they're also much less likely to be rapists.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah, and it's worse if you're not white.

if we do wage equality and socialism at the same time, "men" will all be better off just on the money number too.

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