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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except the uptick is from 1990, it's been getting better for about 34 years now, with setbacks in the dotcom crash, financial crisis and the pandemic.

There haven't been better wages at any point in US history as we beat the uptick of the 1970s some time ago

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wages have been stagnating with respect to productivity, disparity is rising, home ownership is becoming more impossible for the average person, and the bulk of this decline is exported to the Global South which we brutally exploit for cheaper goods.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Home ownership rate has been steady for decades

The wages have been going up, just not exactly as fast productivity for several reasons:

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That certainly doesn't look steady, lol. Large investment firms and banks are buying up a large number of single family housing, making it unaffordable.

Wages do go up, yes, with respect to inflation. They get nowhere close to productivity increases, as exploitation rises.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look at the scale, it's between 63-68 for decades and the top number was literally a bubble

I agree that not all of the productivity gains go to the workers, but the workers are better off now than before

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am referring to the literal times we live in. Single-family housing units are being gobbled up by large firms, this will not show up on your graph just yet.

The Workers are now recieving even less of the Value they create than before, that's a wild way to justify this.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Corporations owning houses is a tiny percentage, again, home ownership rate is 60%+

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not a tiny percentage, and it is getting worse.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not even a special problem if a corp is a landlord or just one person.

The problem is not enough housing, not enough construction. Housing prices are actually decreasing in Austin because Texas builds

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Landlords are problems themselves, it doesn't matter if it's a corp or a person.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is NIMBYs, not landlords

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? It's impossible for all of the homes to be owned, we've been between 63-68% home ownership

In fact, a nasty thing happened when the home ownership peaked around 2008

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Public and individual ownership. Renting for profit is predatory.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone can just pay a down payment on a property

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Public and individual ownership.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The government doesn't have the money to buy every property

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Is that what I am advocating for?