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submitted 4 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/movies@lemm.ee

I never got around to watching it when it came out, and I think I'd completely missed the critical reception and box-office failure it received. Which saddened me to read after the watch, I have to say, as I was really happy to have watched it.

For those who don't know the film, I personally liked Roger Ebert's review (with whom I generally vibed). It was polarising, and genuinely confusing if you want to "understand" a film, while also potentially being vacuous and overwrought. I'm not going to say it was a good film or recommend it to people. If it's for you, you'll know. All I'll say is that it was, for me, a very good kind of film and generally well executed. Some ambitious film ideas and high level or broad concepts put to screen pretty full-throttle.

I haven't seen a film in this general category of viewing experience for a while (probably entirely on me). Last probably would have been 3000 Years of Longing and maybe Twin Peaks S3 (I count that as an 18 hr film), and then Aronofsky's The Fountain (to which Cloud Atlas is probably the closest sibling I can think of).

Without getting nostalgic about films or critical of the current era (I'm not on top of film enough to do that) ... I was certainly reminded that I need to revise my film/TV diet. It re-affirmed for me a sense that films are more powerful than TV and that this era of TV has been productionised in a way that seems to suck the art of it.

As for what the film was actually about, I think it's much like 2001 A Space Odyssey, it's both obvious and confused/inexplicable. I'm sure there's a whole technical breakdown one could read or endeavour to create oneself, but I'm happy to have watched it once and perhaps revisit it again later to try to pick up on all of the connections I'm guessing they wove through the film, in large part because I think that's in line with the spirit of the film which I'm happy to embrace.


Beyond all of that, but kinda connected I think, was to reminisce about the Wachowskis' career, where whatever their flaws, I think I prefer them making things to not ... there's a certain essence of good-hearted and ambitious geek-dom to their stuff that I'm just happy to watch (including Jupiter Ascending and Matrix 4).

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

If you think the film is hard, try the book. It's a beautiful impenetrable postmodern monstrosity.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

It seemed mostly straightforward to me but maybe I didn't get it? It's a bunch of stories through time following the decay and collapse of human civilization that mostly have a "slavery and dehumanization is bad but there's hope because the human spirit" sort of theme, with the narratives connected mostly by the characters reading and being inspired by the records of the previous character's story. They all end partway on a misleading cliffhanger, and then in the second part of the book it works through them backwards to give the endings. Also maybe they are reincarnations of each other but it's ambiguous and doesn't affect the plot afaik.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah I thought the book was easier to follow than the movie

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

lol ... I can see that!

I'm personally not too keen on the book because I'm not sure I need that story in literary form. The core idea seemed more natural in a cinematic/visual form.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The evolution of languages what really makes it it's own animal. Each time period has it's own style, slang and even grammar.

The core idea seemed more natural in a cinematic/visual form.

I think in many ways that's just the sign of a good adaptation.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I don't know, after reading the book the movie is a bit hard to watch. There is a lot missing from the movie, small nuance that goes a long way to making for a much deeper experience.

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