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[-] ji17br@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Do you know how encryption works?

[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Have you verified their encryption method? Where is the source code? Where is the third party public audit that verifies that it's implemented properly with no other means of access?

Blindly trusting that they say it's encrypted is basically the same as no encryption

[-] ji17br@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

On top of being privacy focused themselves, they are only working with AI parters who also pass a third party code review verifying that zero user data is stored.

Shit on Apple for not being repairable, sure. Shit on Apple for their walled garden, sure. But shitting on Apple over privacy is insane. They are they only big tech company that actually cares.

[-] funkycarrot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

I used to hold the same opinion you do, but after reading this article, reality caught up with me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html

If you want a shorter version of this that puts the consequences into perspective, I recommend one of Cory Doctorow's blog posts: https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/18/unhealthy-balance-sheet/#think-manorialism

Taking the above behavior into account, Apple's value proposition for anyone that cares about digital sovereignty is extremely brittle. I've decided not to invest any further into their tech. Is it the worst evil that roams earth? No. But does it logically follow that you should defend all their practices? Also no.

After reading the above, it shouldn't surprise your that Apple spies on their users too, if only a bit less than, say, Facebook/Meta: https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar-liar

Hope you can approach this with an open mind. I know it's hard, I certainly didn't want to start doubting what I thought was a valiant defender of consumer privacy. Cases like the San Bernardino shooter were testaments for Apple's commitment to me. It turns out that's only half the story though.

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