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Look, I'm not trying to choose violence today, so let's not stoop to the level of stereotypical "Star Wars" discourse.

That said, the parallels here were not lost on me, and I generally agree with RTD.

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[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Apparently some people didn't like the reveal of Ruby's parentage, but it was at least in line with the themes of the season in general. I was reminded of Kate and Ruby's conversation in "73 Yards" - how, where the supernatural is concerned, we invent explanations for things we don't understand, and they become true. Also early in "Empire of Death" - Davies did a bunch of teasing about a "kind woman waiting with something absolutely vital", only to have her be an ordinary woman, barely surviving the death wave, waiting to give the Doctor a spoon, which set up the theme of something ordinary becoming the most important thing in the universe.

It would have felt a bit like shallow fanservice if Ruby's mother turned out to be Sutekh, or Susan Foreman, or herself, or one of the gods, or whatever other theories people had. "Rey Palpatine" and "Rey Skywalker" felt the same way.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So, I'm one of those weirdos that really liked the non Casino portion of Star wars ep 8, largely because of the theme of the normal, non-special person being able to be the hero, to be a Jedi. I was excited to see where nine went with that idea and very disappointed when they threw it out.

I liked the reveal of Ruby's mother being a normal woman. And I have some pet theories about her and Mrs Flood and such I won't get into. Sure, I could have done with less finger pointing, and maybe a hoodie instead of one of those Sephiroth's clone cape and cowls, but overall that reveal satisfied me.

[-] Fortyseven@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

*I liked the reveal of Ruby’s mother being a normal woman. *

Yeah! There's a lot of ideas in Last Jedi that I really enjoyed and looked forward to being explored, and Rey's parents being "nobody", suggesting that you didn't have to be in a special "Jedi/Sith destiny" club to be important was one of my favorite ones. It was optimistic. Hopeful. Anyone can be the hero. That's powerful stuff.

Absolutely foolish that they dumped that whole idea in the next film. (Then again there's so much wrong with Ep9 that it might as well be decanonzed.)

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