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Colorado, this is Florida speaking. What is wrong with you?
I can't believe I'm saying this, but could legal weed have been a bad thing? That brand of fuckery is getting increasingly popular here in Canada too.
Slightly more seriously, I wonder if Long COVID really is messing up people's brains to this extent. People who would have been on the fence about voting for someone like her before COVID were also the most likely to intentionally avoid protecting themselves from it. Are future historians going to look to that as the catalyst that collectively broke our brains?
Edit: to clarify my initial joking comment about legal weed, I'm super in favor of it and have been for a very very long time. The "brand of fuckery" I refer to as getting more popular in Canada is a reference to the Boebert/Trump-style populism that's been invading our country over the last decade and to which our almost definite next prime minister subscribes. I was merely joking that perhaps Coloradans are smoking too much, leading to decisions like re-electing Boebert, and perhaps that's also why we Canadians are making poor choices in this regard.
I don't care about the downvotes for my vague post - just want to set the record straight that I think weed is good, and putting people in jail for using it is bad.
Your perspectives suck and no one's told you. This was maybe a time when you should've only asked a good question.
That's not a judgement of you as a person.
Handjob McVape chose a ridiculously gerrymandered district. This is middle class wage slaves, rural property owners, and the employees of rural property owners (incl. oil workers on rented rights).
Pot smokers worldwide lean hard left or are unengaged with their political and activist proceses.
It's not COVID making people stupid. They're just stupid, always have been, and don't know it. Humans have been choosing kings to conveniently let another reason and choose for them since the beginning of humanity. They're not changing. You are.
Well, while I was also mostly joking with that second comment, respect for calling me out on it. For the record, I do know that people have always been this stupid and that much of the US is ridiculously gerrymandered. If anything I was maybe projecting a bit as I suspect I got COVID a few years back and my short-term memory has been off ever since. It's been a point of concern for me as, I admit, it's made me feel more stupid.
I do think people are getting worse, but in reality I blame misinformation campaigns for that.
The one thing I will (politely) disagree with in your comment is your characterization of pot smokers being hard left or disengaged with politics. I think it's much more universal across the spectrum than you're suggesting. Now that it's legal in Canada it seems like everyone uses it to some degree. That's an exaggeration but I'm continually shocked by some of the people I know coming out of the woodwork as users, and many are not even close to hard left (and are engaged in following news and voting for the party I loathe).
Anyway, respect again for sharing your opinion and I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone with my earlier comment. I'll leave it up for the sake of posterity.
Stupider or wiser relative what? If we measure against a what it takes to live a wise life at the time then people are definitely getting stupider (and you are absolutely correct). The wisdom required is rising much more quickly than the wisdom possessed.
Perceptions are also easily swayed because we've been on an unusually long objectively (not relative) downward slope. Some think technology of communication the last nail in the coffin, that we will never begin to become wiser again. They may be right. You may be very, very correct. But, hope is an important thing. In this, I think one should believe what's necessary for personal morale.
You made me think more about pot smokers. I think you're correct. Even in my own observation they're a much more diverse group than I present. And, I bet a lot of them keep their habit totally private.
I came down on you pretty hard there. I think you saw I wasn't attacking you personally. You received it so well you even changed my perspective. This is why I've faith in humanity. We've still got the special sauce.
No hard feelings at all. I made a well-intentioned but dumb joke that wasn't well-received and you had the guts to call me out on why people were reacting so badly. I respect that, and am always open to changing my perspective in the face of new evidence.
For what it's worth, it sounds like we're largely on the same side here. With Lemmy being such a small place, I even recognize your user name as someone I'm pretty sure I've come across before and thought, "this sounds like a smart person."
I'm definitely with you here. I used to buy into the liberal notion that the world is objectively getting better (liberal as in the classic/European meaning, not how it's typically used here in North America). I think that was largely true for a long time since WWII, and it's probably still true in several metrics. Overall though, it feels we're on a major downward trend in many places where it really matters such as the climate, wealth inequality, global strife, etc. I'll admit that's had me pretty demoralized but then I have some good interactions with folks in here that helps me see a little light in all the misery, so thanks for that.
Thank you for the compliment. But, in this facet the biggest difference between us is probably only how much time our parents bought us before we had to fend for ourselves. My ideas aren't special, just regurgitated and stitched together pieces of work by actual smart people.
We're on the same side because any reasonable and intelligent person is on our side. We came from all directions, reasoning our way to the same basic conclusions: It's broken and humans suffer. We'll sacrifice to fix it together.
Handburger Vaper