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submitted 1 year ago by kapx132@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I am fucking scared of the mass surveilence nightmare direction that the internet and the world as a whole is going towards... C2PA, france hacking itself into citizen phones, the UK anti encryption law, EU's chat control, etc. Im also sick of and hate the "you will own nothing and be happy" mentality that corpos try to push. I dont wanna know how the world will look like in 5-10 years.

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[-] miaow@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

You probably don't deserve the downvotes for having spoken your mind, but you might want to be careful of what you wish for. My heart goes out to you for having to face the realities of your own life and conditions, but there is no silver bullet and no utopia to be had until some people are drawn to screw over others for whatever diminishing advantage they derive from their actions, while offloading ("externalizing") the actual costs onto others and onto society at large.

I can see why you'd consider an all-powerful surveillance state as an option in your specific situation -- but as a thought experiment on the same lines, would you consider moving to say China -- where your wishes of total surveillance and absolute power are being implemented to the fullest extent possible -- also, arguably to "preserve its society"? It has all the pulls of big city life...

Sadly, China itself is very likely on the path of forced breeding of its subjects to stabilize its population statistics (not its social fabric), from all the power and control they possess over their people, and from all the surveillance big data and analysis they've built for themselves. Would you want to be that unfortunate, unwilling parent, or even more unfortunate, that unwanted child, where your every step, every thought is logged and analyzed by machines, leading to actions and consequences pre-determined by a handful of all-powerful rulers?

This is probably the most extreme example there is, but all I'm saying is be careful of what you wish for...

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for your answer.

Well, i do definetly not plan on eventually moving to somewhere like China mostly beacuse of the strict (and abusive) restrictions and censorship that take place there.

As for the security aspect, i'm all for it ๐Ÿ‘

Now, you did mention parenthood and...

For me i believe it wouldn't be an issues since i DO plan on having children in the future.

But that's just MY case i'm talking about.

Of course that it would be abusive to restrict your freedom in exchange for security without your consent. (And even more so, to take away your vote for deciding who's in charge of the country for the next period, or worse, an undetermined period of time). AKA Dictatorship

And it is absolutely cruel to force people (specially women) to have children if they don't want to.

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