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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17237851

Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.

“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

Why is it that none of these frantic calls for him to quit offer any plans of who to replace him as candidate, but how to make that new person palatable to any of the voters that aren't guaranteed to vote democrat no matter what?

Seriously, if they're thinking they can just throw the current VP into the candidacy and piddle fart around picking a new VP candidate, they're idiots. Won't work. She's simply not going to pull enough support.

And there's nobody else even close to ready to jump into the middle of an election cycle like this.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The people who aren't guarunteed to vote democrat not matter what fall into two major categories 1) anti-genocide center left. These people want to be able to vote democrat, but simply can't compromise so far to the right as Biden has gone. Pressing the brakes on Israel support is not a super high bar, this group is looking for any sign that the Democrats are capable of listening 2) people who saw the debate performance and think Biden is too old.

Neither of these groups are hard to capture, and the reason most people aren't strongly calling for any specific candidate is probably because everyone understands it would foster divisiveness and be pointless. The most logical choice would be Harris; she would get access to Biden campaign funds, she's been in the whitehouse, she's a woman when abortion is on the ballot, she's responsible for Biden's support by black voters and she has distanced herself from Biden's braindead support of Israel. And, of course, she's not ancient.

So if I was speculating I would say it would be her who would quickly move to the front of whatever convention process might happen if Biden stepped down, but more importantly I think people are being unspecific because they don't need a specific person, they need "Not Biden" because at this point Biden is a surrogate for a Trump win. So think of it as "Not Trump".

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

The first group there is exceptionally stupid because of how Trump would be far and away more supportive of Israel. So letting him in goes against their purported goals.

[-] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Continuing to supply and cover for the genocide hurts support. Why must people "get over" supporting genocide to protect supposed american democracy. Why can't the party who claim to support democracy, stop providing weapons to countries that are found to likely be committing war crimes.

One ask seems easier than the other.

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