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[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

And yet it's still garbage....like their search

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

With adblock enabled I feel like their results are often better than for example Duckduckgo. I recently switched to using DDG as my standard search engine but I regularly find myself using Google instead to get the results I'm looking for.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Interesting, I'm actually the exact opposite. I always start with Google, because it's usually good enough, but whenever it takes 2-3 tries to get something relevant, I switch to ddg and get it first try.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My issue is mostly with image search results. DDG's images tend to be less relevant than Google's. DDG also lacks "smart" results (idk the official term).

For example when you search "rng 25" on Google, it will immediately present you with a random number between 1 and 25. On DDG you have to click on one of the search results and then use some website to generate the number.

Or when searching for the results of a soccer game, Google will immediately present all the stats to you, while on DDG you will only find some articles about it.

Of course it really depends on the kind of search and I'm sure DDG will regularly have better results than Google too.

[-] Verat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

One example I had with DDG image search was transparent electronics, I couldnt find a way to get electronics with a transparent case, DDG would only give me generic electronics images that had transparency. Google got it though

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Those kinds of things are what people often take issue with Google about. Well, the second one anyway. The first is arguably not a search and is instead a calculation, but I admit that’s a little semantical.

The first however, is Google taking information provided by third parties, and presenting it to the user. It prevents traffic from flowing through to the original site, and is something actively complained about.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And I should care about that because? Google is sparing me from visiting a website that will harass me to accept cookies, complain about my adblocker, probably request to send notifications, etc.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

The same reason we don’t let companies sell photocopies of books? This isn’t a take on piracy, to be clear. This is a take on one company stealing content from another, and serving it up as if it were their own. And when Google has a monopoly on search, that fucks over everyone but Google, including you.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Extracting information from the internet that is freely available isn't exactly stealing content. Haven't you ever copied something from Wikipedia? Why would Wikipedia even exist if people can't use and share its content?

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

You really don’t see a difference between a single user citing wiki, vs a billion dollar company going to great lengths to squeeze every cent they can out of everyone involved when looking up information?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago
[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Free to access != free to redistribute

this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2024
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