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Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now (www.eurogamer.net)

submitted 1 month ago by Carighan@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

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This really does not sound healthy. The game is released, for a certain amount of money. If people don't like what they get for their money, they simply should not buy it.

But by now gamers have been so trained to expect to endless content treadmills and all their ilk like mtx and battle passes that publishers/developers get egged on if they don't work on their game 24/7 and forever.

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[-] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Don't buy an early access game if you expect a complete package.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's not expecting a complete package at the time of purchase. It's expecting one in due time with your support.

What you are describing is a game outside of early access.

[-] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Why are those your expectations, then? Seems kind of illogical to look at a system with a history of not that, expect it, then be mad.

You can say it's not right for it to happen, but to be expecting it just makes no sense at all. Again, I'll reiterate, you can argue that the system is fucked and needs to change, but, again, expecting an outcome with evidence that it won't happen, then get mad, is asinine

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

No need to make things up. My expectation is what we get most of the time. You're the weirdo acting like it's not. This article is just a developer trying to move the goal posts of expectations yet again.

Like how much of a cuck for these businesses do you want to be?

It's not illogical to expect a developer to follow the basic standards of the industry they opted into. It would be illogical to declare them the exception.

Small teams drop regular media and content updates all the time without people dying at their desks. The conversation of their working conditions is between them and their bosses (maybe the state), and not their customers.

[-] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

You accused me of making things up and called me a weirdo, honestly you're a waste of breath.

What did I make up, exactly? Are your feelings always this sensitive?

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You made up what my expectations were then argued against that instead of reality. Keep shilling though.

[-] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You LITERALLY said your expectations, dork. I didn't make up shit, you fucking said it yoursel

I'm not shilling, but good try with that one

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I did write my expectations. So why was that your response? You called expecting the norm illogical. I take it back. You're just unrealistic and assume everyone else should be too.

[-] IllIIllIllIIIIl@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago

You just said I made up your expectations then that yeah you did write them out

So which is it? Did i make it up or did you write them?

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I wrote them out and you made up something different. Fuck man. How many times do I gotta break it down? You not reading didn't make my words not exist. This is like... common stuff. This whole argument is making sense now...