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What sample size do ypu think would be appropriate?
in the 2016 election, tens of thousands of people were reached for some polls, and these polls all declared total victory for Clinton
so i cant answer your question directly, but i do know that one single poll of 900 people aint it
But under what factual basis are you discarding a 900 person sample size?
I dont remember polls insisting Clinton would win, I remember dumb people saying thats what polls said, and your source makes me not feel shifted in that opinion.
A 3% margin on a poll in no way is declaring total victory to anybody.
Many of the polls you just shared have a 1% difference in support rate.
So you think a 1% better polling rate is " declared total victory for Clinton" but feel confident in discarding a 900 person sample?
If there was 10k people in the polls ypu are referencing, you are using 900 people as proof of absolute victory lol.
i dont know what point of mine youre arguing against
i dont trust political polls in general, and as far as political polls go this one is on the lower end. all i did was make comparisons to other (larger) polls that did not manage to capture the true distribution of voter intent
Did you seriously make claims about poll data without checking your source?
i dont know what you're talking about.
I just want to chime in and say I don't disagree with you. Your tone wasn't dismissive or condescending at all and the disparaging comments replying to you are pretty rude.
I've only been around Lemmy a short time so my sample size is quite small too, but I've seen a lot of rude condescending pricks around here so far. There's all these threads talk about a great lemmy is and how much better than Reddit it is but I'm just seeing a bunch of assholes so far tbh. That doesn't have anything to do with this post or thread, just venting.
Try reading the link you shared and reading your comment bright guy.
Why are you so aggressive and condescending? Bring it in will you, you're making lemmy a toxic shithole like Reddit and this community is like five seconds old.
The irony.
His bad faith "i don't know what I said" shtick is just as shitty as your play the victim bullshit.
I sent very clear and fair discussion points his way and he continually engaged in gish gallop. Then here you show up being a toxic POS
Speaking for myself, the reason I don't trust polls is because of how wrong they all were in 2016. Your response is rude and condescending and not at all appropriate. You're the asshole here, but it'll probably take you more than an hour or so to fix that.
How dare I? Fuckin lol, you're the asshole here not me. Bring it in a bit.