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I mean i agree, not thrilled with biden, but what do we do, ie, you and i? Almost no matter who is on the ballot, im voting D, tRump cannot happen. I want better options, it just feels like we are out if options and time now. The time to do something else was a while ago, and at this point is this discourse just sowing dissent which will lead to Rump? Would we be better served acknowledging we’re voting for biden and then coming up with plans of action after hes elected?
We would be, because what do you think the chances are of an 81 year old serving the rest of his term out? We'll get Harris anyway. This infighting is accomplishing exactly nothing but driving fence sitters away.
C'mon man...
You're just making arguments for him to not be the candidate now.
Which is why Biden needs to step down ASAP.
Like. You're trying to play the "we need to unite" card, but you just want everyone to do what you want.
Biden can just act a quarter of his age and gracefully step down for the good of his country. He never should have been in the primary for 2024
You're doing the exact same thing. Shouting for Biden to step down because its what you want. Thats like kind of the point of this whole thing. You want a new candidate so you dont give a fuck that a lot of people.voted for him. I digress, keep doing what you're doing we'll be as divided as ever.
You're saying:
I'm saying:
Presenting those two as the same is fucking ridiculous.
Like, Biden has a 34% approval rating...
He is like the second incumbent ever to not win 100% of his primary
He's losing in national polls.
He's losing in battleground polls.
States that have been blue for over 30 years, Biden is projected to lose.
Fucking everything is pointing to Biden losing
And you can't give a single reason why Biden is better than anyone else.
He's just who you want, and even tho you keep saying you'll vote D regardless, it has to be Biden.
Yeah but Harris is also losing in the polls, so is Newsom, or any other challenger to Trump. So what's your point? Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say it has to be Biden. I said the last time we did this it didn't work out. So maybe look at history and learn from it? If you're pushing Harris and insisting Biden can't do it, well she's the fucken VP, she has the seat already if he wins and can't finish. So what are you doing? Sowing division? Offering no viable alternatives? Pissing all over everyone when they say the opposite? Enjoy convincing others of your station that way.
So if Harris pulls ahead of trump in the polls (without even having a campaign or saying she's running) you'd support Biden dropping out so she can stop trump?
Because that's already happening....
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-gets-bad-news-about-kamala-harris-1923889
I'm sure you've got another reason it has to be Joe tho. Do you know what it is yet?
How do we get Kamala if trump wins because we ran Joe?
So do you have a new reason it has to be Joe?
Or do you no longer have a reason for risking trump by running Joe?
So your Newsweek article doesn't even link this new poll. Just the old one it is comparing it to. But keep being a fucken asshole. That will totally convince me to fragment my party dkr the Republicans. Its a risk no matter who you run cause half the country apparently wants a dictator. Now if you want to be constructive and talk about possible alternatives I'm down. But if you just want to keep shoving your dick down my throat with 509 pointed questions I'm out. Your reasoning isn't even sound if its based on this Newsweek article with no fucken linked poll.
I hear that from literally everyone who says they're voting Biden...
What's weird is you all usually then say it has to be Biden.
I just don't get it
Why does it have to be Biden? It's not the "no time" bullshit, the DNC is a private organization, they can change the rules so they can change the nominee literally whenever.
Do you have a valid reason it has to be Biden?