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submitted 1 month ago by mozz@mbin.grits.dev to c/politics@lemmy.world

I hate that this is the debate we’re having now

I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism

But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I think the main issue is that it would be much, much better if Biden stepped aside willingly. As in, better enough that it will significantly impact election results. I think this is largely a pressure campaign to get him to do that.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The problem is that many of us believe that Biden is our best hope even still.

If we had a strong candidate that we felt could rally the party this late in the game, that would be one thing. But IMO, we don't. Every potential candidate has major hurdles that would take more than 4 months to smooth out.

Newsom is already the Right's boogeyman. They targeted him years ago and made him the next Hillary Clinton because they saw him as a threat. I think he's a generally strong Dem candidate for the future, but the Right has managed to brute force negativity to his name that it's going to take some time to fight.

Harris just isn't well liked. She's a bit of a dead fish candidate. I have no idea what she has been up to, all interviews I've seen of her, she holds her cards very close to her chest, and because of it, comes off bland and uninteresting. I do not see her doing well against Trump at this point.

Whitmer just isn't recognizable enough at large. She'd need more time to establish herself.

Honestly, despite the very legitimate concerns with Biden after the debate and following appearances, he's still the strongest candidate IMO. There could have been stronger candidates had he stepped down from the beginning, but the time left is insufficient for the front runner candidates, even if we picked one today.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I understand that a lot of people still think Biden is the best foot forward, but he's losing right now and nobody has been able to even give me an outline of how that could get turned around. I can think of no realistic strategy for getting the concerns around his mental fitness to go away.

You only flip the board when you're losing, and we're losing. Yes, switching candidates is a risk, but polls suggest it's a viable, calculated one.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

but he’s losing right now

Nope.

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