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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by MikeyMongol@lemmynsfw.com to c/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com

One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[-] anaisrim@mastodon.social 110 points 1 year ago

@MikeyMongol

After reading your post over at lemmynsfw, it's pretty clear they were looking for a rationale to defederate and would have done that no matter what you did to prevent it.

You made the right choice if with an unfortunate outcome.

[-] MikeyMongol@lemmynsfw.com 63 points 1 year ago

I don't know if that's true. I mean, maybe? Or maybe they just don't want to see certain things and if so, that's their prerogative. Some people may call this a platitude, but I truly think that's the beauty of the Fediverse -- diverse views, diverse approaches, diverse comfort levels.

[-] anaisrim@mastodon.social 34 points 1 year ago

@MikeyMongol

It's their server. Their choice. Thanks for your hard work!

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

FYI, when you’re replying to someone you don’t need to @ them. You only need to when you’re not directly replying to them.

[-] anaisrim@mastodon.social 23 points 1 year ago

@KairuByte

I just hit reply. Didn't @ the user manually at all. But I'm coming from Mastodon and using the web interface. Seems like many are commenting from lemmynsfw? That should work. Maybe?

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Oh, that’s odd. Wonder if that’s just an odd quirk of Mastadon interacting with lemmy. On this end it looks like you’re manually typing out the users name on its own line.

[-] Nihilore@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That’s definitely what it is, seen it before

[-] Xeknos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's what happens when you reply to a lemmy topic from mastodon. It treats it as a reply to the user.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Very odd, but I suppose it makes sense.

[-] reiskek@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

That's just a part of Mastodon's "Twitter legacy".

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