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submitted 2 months ago by Vitaly@feddit.uk to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I need a messenger that can work without a sim card. I tried jami but didn't really like it. Thanks everyone

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[-] Vitaly@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

What is the difference between XMPP vs matrix?

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Using this very good comparison site in German as base and ignoring the similarities:

Technical

  • XMPP allows for various different client styles while Matrix doesn’t
  • Fully featured, mature text-only clients for XMPP exist, but for Matrix there are only beta text clients available
  • Matrix handles/addresses are always public in chat rooms while XMPP chat rooms can be configured to hide them
  • Matrix has multi-server chatrooms for reliability in case of server or network issues while XMPP chatrooms alre always bound to one single server
  • Matrix Chatrooms can be encrypted. XMPP chatrooms can be encrypted or not encrypted. (there’s no further explanation on this point, I assume it’s meant that Matrix servers can turn on encryption and that’s it, while XMPP servers allow the chatroom administrator to decice and do not force one or another)
  • Administrative data is stored on one XMPP server. Matrix administrative data is stored on the servers of all connected users
  • XMPP is modular and the protocol itself can be extended while Matrix is monolithic
  • XMPP protocol uses XML while Matrix protocol uses JSON
  • Matrix focuses on reliability and availability of chatrooms, XMPP focuses on features and extensibility
  • XMPP uses less system resources than Matrix
  • Chatroom data storage is done only on the XMPP server the chatroom is running on, while Matrix stores chatroom data on all of the servers of the connected users
  • XMPP directly sends a message if the connection is open, otherwise a push notification is sent. Matrix only sends a push notification to the client and the client has to pull the message from the server

Organizational

  • XMPP is an IETF standard while Matrix isn’t
  • XMPP board and council are equally elected by all members. Matrix is a “single-party system” where the board decides who is allowed in the board.
  • For XMPP all members are allowed to question/check/validate the board and council and there are annual elections. For Matrix, the Matrix.org Foundation (technical council) and New Vector Ltd. (service provider) expect trust from the community.
  • On the XMPP board and council, all actors have to name their interests and their employer (this is to prevent having more than 15% of board/council members from the same company which would give a single company too much power). For Matrix there is no known information about such a clause.
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