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That organization, that is not really an organization, but rather a specifically American movement, which did not exist in the 30's nor in Germany, probably did not help Hitler come to power.
Antifa did not originate in the United States and has been a decentralized movement for a century, with roots in Italy, Germany and Spain
I guess what they say about learning something new everyday is true.
Hey I probably wouldn't know this if I wasn't heavily left leaning with an interest in learning about anarchism/communism along with having a pretty radical community that I've participated in. Mainstream politics, no matter how balanced they are, give no nuance at ALL. I searched for "antifa origins" and it took 3 pages of the search for me to even start scraping past US propaganda about the movement. In order to even find this source, I had to search for "antifa origins it's going down" because "it's going down" is a very radical leftist publication that I figure would have a countering narrative...All that to find a Smithsonian article lol.
You can also find it in places like Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook (which as much as modern antifascism details the history in the 20s and 30s) and Everything Is Possible: Antifascism and the Left in the Age of Fascism (which claims about antifascism creating left is IMO dubious, does a pretty good job in detailing the history of it).
But then again I am also one heavily left-leaning in a heavily left-leaning multicultural friend group who are largely human rights activists which is why these books were on my radar. If you have demonstrated and organized under the umbrella of Antifa you pretty quickly understand a lot of what people tell you about it even here in Finland does not match reality. And if you are like me, that means history and books.
Probably shouldn't be in this thread or sharing opinions if you know this little about the subject.
On the contrary, by interacting, I learned something new and now know more about the subject
While I agree with you, maybe edit would make some sense. There is a huge amount of propaganda and misconceptions about antifa which is why it is so easy to take your original comment as truth.
I figured it was like BLM, where it's not really a "group", just a call to activism, making the right wingers who want to "sue the CEO of Antifa for property damage" comical. (Yes these exist)
It is both descriptive of groups who work against fascists and part of the name of some groups who currently and historically work against fascists. This doesn't make suing the CEO of Antifa any less insane.
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And you did it in the confidently incorrect community. Have you no shame?