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Seven major automakers to build EV charging network with 30,000 chargers
(arstechnica.com)
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This is a big deal. I know a ton of people who want to go electric but worry about not having enough juice on the occasional road trip.
Whether that's a valid reason for not going electric, that's debatable. But it's an important part of their decision-making process, so it needs to be addressed.
When an EV is generally 2x the price of a ICE vehicle at the same level I’d say it’s valid. The cheaper EVs have all been discontinued or had safety issues. And even then the battery life was nothing near an ICE vehicle and very costly to replace.
I would say it’s a very valid concern. Especially if the alternative is having 2 cars and more maintenance.
Even teslas will plan your trip but then stops are for a long time to charge. Not the 3-5 minutes to refuel.
Its true for road trips but the vast majority of EV owners charge while parked at work or at home, meaning they spend far less time charging their car than it would take to keep fuel in a gas car. Just plug it in and walk away. You leave every morning with a full tank. It makes the 20 minute charges necessary on longer road trips well more than worth the tradeoff. Its way healthier to get out of the car and stretch your legs every 2-3 hours anyway.
Yeah, but for everyday driving you’re charging all the time that you can. If you aren’t supercharging (not good for the battery, also not everywhere), it takes like 8-40 hours to charge up depending on voltage. Even 8 hours isn’t short enough to not think about it. Forget to plug-in and you could have a headache when you realize you don’t have the juice for your trip.
Also charging at work is a pain because there are limited spots usually and you gotta fight for it.
For me I prefer PHEV until more kinks are worked out.
To each their own but I disagree with that. 8 hours is whats needed to get from 0-100%, and the vast majority of the time you're only going to need to charge from 20-80% at most. If you use your car so much and never need sleep to the point that your car can never be found sitting for long enough to charge, then... wow. You would have to be driving about 20 hours per day, every day and putting over 400,000 miles per year on your car for that to not make sense. I don't know about you but I know thats not the case for 99.999% of people.
Most people drive 100 miles per-day at the most, and even that is quite a lot from their normal usage. Adding 100 miles of charge to an average EV takes about 4-5 hours at level 2, like while parked in a garage. You can further cut this down by plugging in at your destination as well. As long as you're a human who occasionally needs sleep I don't see any issue.
I understand for most people that there is ample time to charge in a day. But, you’re always doing it. It’s another thing to maintain and think about all the time. Most people fill their gas tank once every week or two and that’s that. Charging becomes an everyday thing.
I own a tesla, and stopping every couple hours to charge really isn't a big deal. Going from 20%-80% usually only takes 15 minutes, which is enough time to use the bathroom and maybe grab a snack. Most superchargers are in decent locations, so there's always something to do for that time. Even when there isn't, I just watch Netflix or something