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[-] jeff@programming.dev 23 points 3 months ago

It's a patent case. It has nothing to do with the creative design of the games.

But yes. Every pokemon is copyrighted. Every pal is copyrighted. (In the US) All creative work is automatically copyrighted to the creator.

You can't copyright "a standing lizard with a small flame on its tail" but you can copyright Charmander. If you copy enough elements that a lay person can't distinguish the original and the copy then it opens it up for a copyright claim.

None of that is relevant in this case.

A patent is to protect a specific invention from being copied. In this case, there is an innovative game mechanic that Nintendo patented has that Palworld copied. The speculation is with throwing an item that captures a character that fights other characters in a 3d space.

The patent is dumb. Personally I don't think it is innovative or special enough to be patented. Patenting software or game mechanic are dumb anyway.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

And hopefully something that they'll be able to find reams of prior art that precede the patent

[-] Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not sure how it works in Japan, but in many nations you have to file for a patent before or pretty soon after you release your product / service. In the US I think there's a 1 year grace period. It's a pretty common sense thing that stops whole businesses springing up and then being shut down by patent creation just like we are seeing here.

There are many games out there now that involve catching monsters and making them fight for you, Nintendo would be shutting down 100s, if not 1000s of developers if they wanted to go ahead with this and have it be taken seriously.

Anyone that has played Palworld will tell you that it much more resembles ARK than it does any Pokémon game or experience anyway.

[-] jeff@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Once again. Patents have nothing to do with art. And even if they had proof they worked on those mechanics before Nintendo patented them doesn't mean they have the right to use it. Yes, it's kinda a dumb system. But there is a lot of effort to get a patent, and once you have one you have a lot of protection because of it.~~

Disregard. :) see comment below

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

(Not sure if I'm being whoosh'd, but just in case: "Prior art" is the legal term for a precedent that something was in use prior to being patented, and is the primary means of fighting software patent troll shit like nintendo is trying to pull here)

[-] jeff@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Nope, my bad. Im far from an expert but know enough to differential between copyright and parent. I didn't know that prior art had that meaning.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Roger, disregarding :-)

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

How long do patents last for anyway? Pokemon being caught in balls must be many, many decades old by this point.

[-] jeff@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

20 years.

But it isn't the original system. It's the implementation done is Legends Arceus.

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