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Who the hell finds it fun to either waste time trying to lure them into a trap or chase them down? And it's so much worse against ai because they don't need to micro manage the way humans have to so it seems whenever I use them they get wrecked under the first half assed volly from any unit. This applies to literally any game. Who has fun with this shit?

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[–] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The age old conundrum of the unit that may or may not be strong in real combat situations, but becomes absolutely gamebreakingly busted when added to videogames, because it's strenghts translate into overwhelming advantages with none of the real life drawbacks it had to endure, usually via game design, bad balancing or games putting said units in unrealistic situations.

Take for example anti-aircraft guns since WW2. Other than the obvious real example of the FlaK88 being turned into an AT gun by the Germans, several others of these become anti-infantry or even anti-armor rapid firing nightmares in war games, because they're put well inside their optimal range and within threatening range of infantry and tanks. Which would usually destroy them from afar. The OTO Melara gun is a good modern example. Italian radar guided 110mm naval gun, was never mounted onto a proper line vehicle that was adopted by any country. But the prototypes, like the OTOMatic, absolutely terrorize every game where they appear, as a hyper accurate, rapid firing, high damage anti-everything gun.

Horse archers are just the ancient ages example of that.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Um...archers on chariots were almost certainly extremely effective in any era they appeared. The main reason they stopped being popular in combat was because horses became big enough to ride after thousands of years of breeding.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also because they were absurdly expensive for the civilizations that were using them. The loss of their chariots to Sea People invasions and the cost of replacing them is sometimes listed among the reasons for the Bronze Age collapse of the Hittites and the decline of Egypt despite their battlefield victories.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

And it takes a lot of time to train soldiers to effectively ride horses, shoot bows and especially to ride horses while shooting bows while also making sure there's enough money/logistics to take care of those troops. Much easier to give tons of people a simple bow and tell them to have at it. Or spears. Just... spears for everyone.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying we just have to add a "horse farm" minigame that has to be played every time the units are used?

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

Announcing the new "Royal Stables" DLC: "Marauders & Massacres" is sure to spice up your medieval farm simulation!