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Edited later to add:

The original press release seems to be gone now, but here is what is claimed to be the revised release, and an article on the same topic.

https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/polizei-dortmund-greta-gewaltbereit-100.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-politician-calls-greta-thunberg-102611513.html

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[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

The concern is legitimate, but it falls into the same "never again - to us" pit Israel fell into. Another potential framing one could take of the issue - one I feel is more helpful - would go something like: 80 years ago, the world got together to help save Germany from itself, and it's time to return the favor, hopefully before it gets completely out of hand like last time.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It'd be a good take on this, but there are still too many people in the world that fall for hypocrisy when one side is lying through their teeth and the other is calling out the bullshit and saying things as they are. Too many people will side with the liars who would claim that Israel is acting in self-defense and fighting "terrorists".

Edit: I had to reword a few sentences (previous and next), because it seemed as if I was talking about liars on the one hand, and nazi parties on the other, as if they weren't one and the same - that is absolutely not what I meant, I just reworded too much and then read it myself and thought "oh damn".

I admit that the higher risk in Germany right now is the anti-"brown people", putin-loving piece of shit nazi party (AfD, in case you were wondering, but CDU/CSU comes close), and not any anti-semitic party. So I guess calling out Israeli war crimes wouldn't come with an immediate risk of a rise in anti-semitism.

I guess that's also the problem here. Palestinians are seen as "brown people" and the post 2001 hate-filled news escalation has deepened the deeply ingrained racism in many parts of European societies. So among our political parties (and I don't see a difference from most European countries), none is really vocal about the crimes against humanity being committed in Gaza and Lebanon. And previously Syria. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. And before that Iran. Notice a pattern?

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