132
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Fontasia@feddit.nl to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

Essentially, there have been two reactions over on grad today:

  1. I didn't vote, neither of the candidates were going to stop the war in the Gaza Strip, therefore, there could be no good outcome for the US, therefore I can't be held accountable
  2. I voted for a third party, which Republicans will have to acknowledge and respect
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Trump’s reign will only be ended by violence. We aren’t getting centrists’ and moderates’ help with that. They are the enemy. They are the complicit citizens of a nation we are going to war with. Some of them will try to stop us, and we need to be prepared to kill them.

Tell me how else I am supposed to interpret this, please.

[-] nickwitha_k 5 points 3 weeks ago

Tell me how else I am supposed to interpret this, please.

I'd recommend reading Dr. King's letter from Birmingham Jail. Drag is coming to terms with the fact that Dr. King was right but his statement also applies to the plight of all marginalized people.

In addition, once they're in power, fascists do not voluntarily leave while they are still alive. I'm not personally calling for violence but, non-voters have helped to remove the ballot box as a tool for any meaningful change for anyone currently living or coming generations. The courts are gone along with any hope of free and fair elections. That's something that you need to understand. A lot of people are in complete denial of that and will remain so as the pressure ramps up.

People who remain moderates and centrists are going to be those who inform on their trans and immigrant neighbors in order to try to keep out of the line of fire and keep pretending that everything is "normal".

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm reading/skimming the letter now, and while I'm definitely not going to read the whole thing (good grief that sucker is long), what I am reading, I agree with quite enthusiastically. Especially the parts about how everyone needs to be concerned about injustice, not just the people it directly affects, and how nonviolent protests that break a law to demonstrate that the law is unjust can be effective.

Yet still, somehow, politically motivated murder remains what Drag was pretty explicitly calling for when Drag said “we need to be prepared to kill them”, and what Dr. King was pretty explicitly talking about not doing when he said “We began a series of workshops on nonviolence, and we repeatedly asked ourselves: ‘Are you able to accept blows without retaliating?’ ‘Are you able to endure the ordeal of jail?’”,, and something I'm pretty expicitly still not on board with.

[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm definitely not going to read the whole thing (good grief that sucker is long)

Expand your horizons. Sometimes reading long things is worth it

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
132 points (83.0% liked)

MeanwhileOnGrad

1397 readers
233 users here now

"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"

Welcome to MoG!


Meanwhile On Grad


Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


What is a Tankie?


Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

(caution of biased source)


Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS