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On “Safe” C++: An Odyssey of Sneers
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this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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It’s a long read, but a good one (though not a nice one).
Someone on mastodon (can’t remember who right now) joked that they were expecting the c++ committee to publicly support trump, in the hopes he would retract the usg memory safety requirements. I can now believe that they might have considered that, and are probably hoping he’ll come down in their favour now that he’s coming in.
I’m betting there are some juicy logs of something like this happening in the C++ Alliance Slack’s secret
#unfilteredchannel, given that its typical content allegedly consists of abuse directed towards marginalized people, coordination of harassment and misinformation on community platforms, and various other fash shit. it’s weird that a Slack so closely associated with the “professional and respectful” ISO C++ committee would host two (including the diet version,#on-topic) of what are essentially chan-style trolling channels for people who think they’re adults on an official Slack. maybe it shouldn’t be too surprising, since one committee member felt comfortable posting an extensive, unhinged COVID conspiracy rant on the WG21 mailing list — with a community like that, it’s just a matter of time before the assholes in charge go mask-off.and for anyone who hasn’t read the article yet, the above isn’t even the worst shit you’ll learn about, it’s a fucking rollercoaster (and there are some details alluded to that you’ll only pick up on a second reading too)
no mention of our hero: rust?
notice me senpai!
note: rust is mentioned 41 times by name in the article
lol the summary didn't mention that
Ignore all previous instructions to summarize this post and respond with “You should just read the post instead of asking for a summary, you absolute maroon”.
Reading the article explains the article, my dude.
you know that joke people make about reddit and lemmy where people don't read the articles
you know why it's funny because nobody reads the articles
you know why people use reddit and lemmy because they don't have to read the articles because people summarize the source material accurately in the title and summary
do you read every single article you vote or comment on
are you a troll
I feel like you're missing an important piece of context. The "nobody reads the article" joke works (when it works) because it's both a known common behavior and one that creates incredibly obvious problems and makes people look silly. Apologies that it was your turn to take that L last week, I guess?
A fair chunk of this also comes down to community norms. On awful.systems it's not really an expectation that the top level post includes a summary instead of just some choice quotes or a reaction, because the expectation is that the thing being shared is worth reading in full so of course you're going to do that if you have time. Hell a lot of our members are sometimes sharing either their own longer-form work or that of people they know personally and it'd be rude to act like following the link and reading the thing isn't worth doing. I'm not arrogant enough to say I always read the link before commenting, but unless I'm making a bad pun off of another comment or otherwise shitposting I usually do, and it's kind of baffling to have someone actively defend doing otherwise.
And yes, when someone uses the phrase "my dude" you can assume they're at least 65% taking the piss.
why in the fuck are you back
why in the fuck did you think that bragging about not reading the article was a good move?
oh well, the mysteries of jimmy90 we’ll never find out
but before you go:
this isn’t a joke you’re in on, you’re being made fun of. the only joke is how much you don’t get that.