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The political-military origins of the EZNL are found in the National Liberation Forces (FLN), a clandestine organization formed at the end of the 1960s in northern Mexico, inspired by the Cuban revolution, the FLN organized a guerrilla struggle with the aim of achieving the construction of socialism in Mexico. But some time later, in the early 1970s, they ended their activities abruptly when their structure in Mexico City was discovered by state security forces and many of their militants, both in Chiapas and Mexico City, were brutally assassinated. However, its survivors did not give up and managed to reorganize and settle in 1983 in Chiapas, pursuing the same objectives. However, in order to achieve their objectives, they formed the EZLN and a social base to sustain it.

The main social base of the EZLN is in the indigenous municipalities of the Cañadas region, the highlands and the northern zone of Chiapas. A large number of the commanders are indigenous and, at least since 1993, the military apparatus has been subordinated to a council of delegates from the Zapatista communities called the Clandestine Revolutionary Indigenous Clandestine Committee (CCRI). The indigenous communities in the country have a long history of exploitation, abandonment and exclusion from national political and economic life, and have strengthened their community organization, while historically leading various social movements in search of improving their living conditions, preserving their traditions and customs or for their self-determination and government; The jungle zone and the highlands of Chiapas are no exception, so the guerrilla group that arrived there found an already highly politicized indigenous society, with experience in mobilization and with permanent communication with diverse political and social organizations; The little or no response to their demands on the part of federal, state or local authorities, and the permanent violation of their fundamental rights, may explain, on the one hand, the reasons why they opted for the armed struggle in 1994. On the other hand, their growing participation in the Zapatista uprising reinforced the indigenous character of the EZLN, which quickly integrated their demands in its program and discourse, which generated that during the negotiations with the federal government, a process was initiated to establish a new relationship between the State and the indigenous peoples of the country. The EZLN, on behalf of the national indigenous movement, incorporated the demands and proposals of the various indigenous representations of the country.

Being the indigenous peasants “support bases” for the EZLN, we can highlight five forms of cooperation between these two groups: safeguarding the clandestinity of the insurgents; recruiting new combatants; guaranteeing supplies to sustain the guerrillas; participating in protest mobilizations; and carrying out collective infrastructure work and (inter)community services. These functions strengthen the bonds of (inter)community solidarity, increase social integration and strengthen a “Zapatista identity”.

In the 1994 uprising in Chiapas, the EZLN demanded the vindication of the ownership of the lands taken from the indigenous communities, a better distribution of wealth and the participation of the different ethnic groups in the organization of the state and the country; the reaction of the federal government was to send troops to Chiapas to quell the rebellion. The mobilizations of the civil society stopped the attacks and after 12 days of armed conflict, the federal government unilaterally declared a ceasefire.

The talks between the EZLN and the federal government ended with the signing in February 1996 of the San Andres Accords on “Indigenous Rights and Culture”, which committed the State to recognize indigenous peoples constitutionally and to grant them autonomy. The dialogues also gave rise to the foundation of the National Indigenous Congress (CNI) on October 12, 1996, a movement of indigenous peoples, neighborhoods, tribes, nations, collectives and organizations, with the slogan “Never again a Mexico without us” and with the objective of the integral reconstitution of the indigenous peoples. In March 1995, the Commission for Concord and Pacification (COCOPA), a bicameral legislative commission made up of the Mexican Chamber of Deputies and Senate, was formed to assist in the dialogue process.

Shortly after they were signed, the San Andres Accords were ignored by President Ernesto Zedillo. A policy of encirclement and siege, organized by the federal and local governments with the support of landowners and cattle ranchers, organized paramilitary forces trained by the army itself and allocated considerable resources to the cooptation of citizens and groups, while at the same time accentuating the expulsion of opponents from their lands and villages.

COCOPA, which was charged with drafting a proposal for constitutional reform that would include the main consensuses established in the San Andres Accords, presented its initiative to the parties in November 1996; the EZLN accepted the proposal; the President, although he accepted it at first, soon proposed modifications that substantially changed the proposal, without recognizing the rights of the indigenous peoples, and without recognizing any compromise. The peace process became bogged down.

In 2003, the EZLN announced the creation of Los Caracoles and the Good Government Councils, which reinforced the principle of “commanding by obeying”, -they listen, do, decide and command, obeying the communities and their territorial organizations-, and in the autonomy they allow to propose a strong project of networks with national and international possibilities. Since its creation, Zapatista teachers and doctors have been trained and schools and clinics have been built. In addition, a justice system has been developed which is used by both Zapatistas and other members of society, as it is more efficient than the institutional system.

The Caracoles, in the words of Pablo González Casanova, “open new possibilities of resistance and autonomy for the indigenous peoples of Mexico and the world, a resistance that includes all social sectors that fight for democracy, freedom and justice for all”.

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What do you find persuasive about it?

I don't have a strong opinion but it seems unfalsifiable to me, which I don't find very convincing.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, it is completely unfalsafiable. There is nothing to do with the information either way. Like, if I could prove it to be true it would be meaningless. It could in no way change how we live or why. It we had the power we would totally make little simulated universes. It won't take too much more before we create video games where the characters shave a reasonable experience of reality. In our own world as we know it that would make the odds of anyone who thinks they are alive simulated. It is completely meaningless but the math checks out.

[-] Woly@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't a simulation of our reality necessitate that the "simulator" existed in a more complex reality than our own? Because while we might make a convincing display of realistic "stuff" we are not anywhere, anywhere at all, near being able to accurately simulate all of the spectacular details that are included in something as small as a living room. Just the amount of data you would need to accurately catalog all of the atoms in that room, their composition, their temperature, the forces they're experiencing and their interactions with each other... it quickly scales up to a functionally infinite amount of data.

It seems like the best that we could ever hope for is to create a simpler version of our own reality, which would mean that the reality which birthed ours must be more complex, no?

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

I could not know. I can't honestly say something like probably. Cause if such a universe existed I would lack the ability to perceive it. Further it is unclear our world is simulated to that level of precision. At least in my case the world isn't even rendered in HD when I have my glasses off. If the world worked on newton's physics unless we specifically monitored stuff and then that small area was rendered in higher detail we would never know the difference. Nor could it ever matter in a meaningful way. There are a million things that could be and we have no way of knowing if any of them are likely or true

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