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They're all busy proving they can out-fascist the fascists before the upcoming elections.
Turns out an AFD victory wasn't even necessary for Germany to go to hell. The centrists are the same bunch of cowards as they have always been, and are more than willing to give humanity up on a whim.
Would love to hear from any Germans what their thoughts are about voting next year. Seems pretty fucked from the outside.
Overall, I find your comment exaggerated and its logic doesn't hold up entirely:
You're making valid points.
There's many things going on. Scholz' peraonal weakness, the weakness of the ruling coalition, and the special relationship that you mentioned is certainly some of them. I also feel like there is a move to the right in order to meet the challrnge from the AfD. Maybe to a degree that's even necessary, but the way it appears to me it's as if the whole political establishment is just stumbling over itself.
Not necessarily just from these news, it's more a general frustration. And you are probably right that I exaggerate, that tends to be a side effect of frustration. I am trying to understand what's going on in Germany as well, to which your comment is insightful - so thanks for that! :)
That shift does exist, unfortunately across all major parties. The Left Party is sorta excluded from that dynamic but only because the left/right hybrid BSW split off.
However, it's centered around stoking fear in/picking up fears from the majority society against immigrants/LGBTQ people (and other perceived societal outsiders). It is largely independent of behavior toward Israel [though] - [behavior toward Israel] follows a script that may be problematic too but [is not] defined [or majorly influenced] by Afd. Except for the aspects I named before: Right-wing isolationism (which may mean not delivering weapons to Israel and protesting for peace) as well as making refugees, many of whom are Muslims feel unwelcome (which may means using their [real or perceived] antisemitism against them).
Thanks!
Is there no notable internal opposition in the SPD against the alliance with Netanyahu, the anti-European symbolic politics, and the creeping towards the right?
I interpret the situation as being several unwelcome trends that might in part be predictable, but not inevitable, and especially not as the chancellor is a social democrat. No matter how much sense these things make, I can't shake off the feeling that Merkel stepping down and the SPD taking over in many ways feels like a step to the right.
I attribute that to the weakness of Sholz, who seems to be doing what he can to cling to power. But I might indeed be completely (or at least partially) missing the mark.