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[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I can only guess what the context here is but to imply that "they're fine with kids getting raped" is almost definitely an extremely dishonest strawman of what they're actually trying to say. This type of bad-faith dunking on people you disagree with only makes them dig down their heels even deeper and, I'd argue, is only making things worse.

If I had to steelman their position without knowing full context, I'm assuming that what they're trying to say is that abortion shouldn't be legal just because of the comparatively small number of cases where it perhaps would be justified (incest/rape) because it opens the door to a huge number of what they see as unecessary abortions.

If one truly cares about changing minds rather than scoring worthless internet points then you need to take down the foundations - not break the windows. Breaking windows is fun and easy but it doesn't achieve anything. Listen to what people are saying and challenge their core beliefs.

[-] voxthefox@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

I think the point of their argument, not that I agree with them, is that they see any abortion as straight up murder, so in their mind child rape is an acceptable consequence because the alternative is child murder.

That's why this argument is so pervasive in keeping the masses separated, it's a choice between the left's bodily autonomy and the religious right's believing life starts at conception. Neither side is willing to concede an inch to the other because it's not an argument where you can compromise.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

so in their mind child rape is an acceptable consequence

For what it’s worth, this happens in both scenarios, so to them it’s rape or rape + murder. Which is why the reply is useless

Though like the bible says; all women should have an abortion to prove they are faithful. If the child is the husband’s then god will protect it

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