Forgive me if this was addressed, but I don't think it was. During a previous struggle session in a statement from the mod team something was said along the lines of "the he/hims aren't beating the allegations".
Personally I do not think this is acceptable, to me this is just using "he/hims" as a proxy for saying men. No one in IRL settings uses "he/hims" as a term to describe people who use him/him pronouns, no one is categorized into a grouping in general based on their pronouns as it is just a preferred pronoun not a characteristic like gender identity.
If there is misogyny going on, just say there is misogyny among users, their pronouns do not change the content of what they said, if someone with he/him pronouns and someone with she/her pronouns typed the exact same degrading thing about a woman, their pronouns would not factor into whether what they said was misogynistic or not.
I am bringing this up as it seems like people in the mod chat are still using "he/hims" to refer to people who have indicated they prefer he/him as their pronouns, you might think this is progressive because you are not directly making a gender identity assumption, but I believe this is in fact reactionary and you are just using pronouns as a proxy for the gender that is most commonly associated with the given pronoun i.e. men in the case of saying "he/hims".
I think this is at least counterproductive and at most harmful, if knowing someone's gender identity is relevant or useful, it should just be asked for.
The point of having pronouns is to accommodate and to treat people with respect and dignity about what they prefer to be called. Using pronouns as a proxy for gender identity undermines this as, treating someone with dignity would involve asking them directly what their gender identity is, not making judgments or assumptions based off of their preferred pronouns.
The only thing that having he/him pronouns indicates is that the person prefers to be referred to with the pronouns he and him. They are just personal pronouns, they are not equivalent to an ethnicity, a gender identity, a gender expression, etc.
If someone with he/him pronouns seems like they are misogynistic, that may have something to do with their gender identity, but it has nothing to do with their pronouns. It is not fair nor accurate to make assumptions of gender identity from pronouns and I think this should be avoided.
This is not to undermine any concerns about misogyny, but misogyny can and should be fought against regardless of what pronouns are involved in any instance of it.
Thanks for reading this, please know all I want is for pronouns and gender identity not to be conflated and to create a safe and respectful space for all users. And I think a good way to work towards this would be to stop using "he/hims", "she/hers", "they/thems", etc. as a way to refer to people who specify they would like to be referred to as those pronouns.
GOOD post!
Also kinda related, I'm sick of the mods using their own identity as a shield for being told they're doing something bigoted. Every time this blows up we see the same excuse: "The mod team contains members of [minority] and they're fine with it". Neat! So since I'm queer does that mean I can't be transphobic? I'm neurodivergent, guess I can't be ableist.
The site culture got so much worse after we implemented the wrecker jacketing rule.
Finally and once again to all the people who dont understand this: You not liking something does not make it "reactionary".
Also what's this about screenshots? New drama ig, but you're also pointing out the last session when @ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net made the "he/hims" comment and then an incredible not-apology showing impressive lack of introspection, yet theres mods here acting as if you're taking things out of context lmao.
Edit: I read the screenshots and from the context I've gotten the green user is incredibly patient, rehashing the same polite reflections again and again, despite being accused of outrageous shit. At some point they crack and hey wow yay they went over our arbitrary line. It's a piss-poor bullying tactic I've seen used too many times here now. I had to stop reading a bit past halfway because I got too mad, so unless that pattern changes it's bs.
It also rehashes the "he/him" argument while ignoring the main point - it's not at all valid. It wasn't just a bunch of "he/hims" and saying so is just a way to stop the nasty feeling of maybe having to consider that people disagreeing with you isn't inherently bad and maybe you should look inwards. The green user is talking about noticing a pattern being valid, which it is (being scared of men is fine, we all have trauma), but that pattern isn't applicable when you're not talking about a bunch of men, but a bunch of people. Incredible that the mods still don't get that saying "everyone I disagree with is a man" is a shitty thing to do.
Also calling them a debate pervert is such obvious bullshit. Modteam is full of ~~feds~~ children who have social influence for the first time in their lives.