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What's inside the recalled Skilhunt H150

https://zakreviews.com/h150-repair.html

I took apart my H150 to better understand the RPP short, show what else is inside, and attempt to make it safe to use.

#flashlight #headlamp #skilhunt #recall #h150 #repair #teardown #disassembly @flashlight@lemmy.world @flashlight@kbin.social

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I could see this as another casualty of lumenitis. CPF used to be wary of unprotected calls and preferred protected ones. Today's high powered lights make that problematic.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A lot of older lights didn't have LVP. AA/14500 lights never did until recently, and usually had terrible mode spacing with 14500.

Unprotected cells aren't required for any Skilhunt lights. I have H10s because they had the highest capacity available when I bought them, but I'd likely buy unprotected button-top F12s if I needed more 14500s. True protected 14500s are too long for most AA battery cases, though Skilhunt, Acebeam, and others have been selling 14430s as protected 14500s.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

14430+protection seems like a good way to do it. I wish someone would do similar for 18650 and 21700. The protection is not just against undervoltage. It's also against shorts, as matters here.

[–] jerv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The issue with protected cells is that they don't make allowances for going into momentary load territory that the cell can handle safely. I have no qualms pulling 20A from a 30Q for a moment, but a lot of 18650 protection would clamp down at the 15A CDR. I'm fairly sure that I'm not alone a willingness to give up a few hundred mAh from my 18650s to get 18500's wearing funny hats **if ** we could get the amps an unprotected cell allows while getting protection from actual shorts.

Sadly, 21700's would be a problem. While 14430 and 18500 are (somewhat) standard sizes that can easily be shimmed to 14500/18650 size, there's no slightly-shorter 21mm cell. Most 21700's are made into battery packs that have that protection as part of the pack, so there's no need for such protection on the cell. And I don't think there's enough flashlight enthusiasts and vapers to create a new standard.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The easy solution is for flashlights to be a few millimeters longer and flexible about the cells they accept. That's true of the H150, as an example; it accepts all 14500s, or would if not for the RPP short.

[–] jerv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not wrong, but "a few millimeters" means a lot more for a 14500 light than for an 18650/21700 light. While many may think the ~8mm difference in length between the D4V2 and D4K isn't much, it's enough for some folks (myself included) to sacrifice the runtime.

More importantly, it's harder to accommodate a wider range of lengths without getting some rattle on shorter cells. Not an insurmountable problem, but definitely a consideration. The range required to take protected/USB-charging cells is a bit wider; >10% of the cell length, and a much larger percentage of the travel length of the spring. Dual-spring helps by splitting that across two springs, but has limits.

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