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Thread on where they go from here:
https://chapo.chat/post/4470321
Right now the registrar stands to make over $2000 from auctioning this site. That's a lot more than whatever renewal HB were going to pay and once it sells for that whoever buys it then has a much higher renewal fee thereafter (hundreds of dollars a year probably) as a result of that valuation which they can in theory reap year after year. Even should the person buying it drop it immediately their hosting company stands to reap more from this one auction and year than if they'd continued to host with them for 10 years.
This was entirely a self-own on HexBear's part. A list:
Their admins did not press strongly enough to get access they needed to the domain name account.
Admins knowing the person having these details was flaky did not monitor things like domain renewal and such, if they had they would have noticed while the grace period was still active and could (apparently) have quickly reached the person with access within the 30 days required and fixed it. The person with access was able to be reached we see now within 2-3 days. That's not a difficult person to reach or they got damn lucky with timing.
Person who had access almost certainly got some sort of notice. This either went to an unmonitored email ๐ or was ignored.
Their post on it here is made by an anonymous admin. Once again their admins are obfuscating, not being transparent with the userbase and acting a too much like bad actor groups like MAC on reddit in thinking themselves some appointed council of ideology and ethics in charge of their userbase and guiding them to preferred conclusions established by discussions within this secret group.
(To be fair to 4 their userbase does need guidance given how many left-libs and people who haven't read theory are there, they have let in a lot of liberalism but too often these struggles and edicts are not on principled meaningful matters like addressing the misogyny issue but on pet causes, minor tiffs, arguments over phrasing, etc)
Let alone saying nothing to the community about the impending issue and mitigations (fallback sites, risk of cyberattack if continuing to use the old domain, ...)
The lack of warning when they knew of this issue well ahead of time, the lack of accountability after it happened, and the lack of clear information have frankly undermined my trust in Hexbear's moderation team. Ultimately I still favor Hexbear's culture over Lemmygrad's, and don't know how much more trustworthy the admins here are, though.
I'm glad to have both.
There are certain times I just need to be with other ML's but lemmygrad is admittedly small and therefore limited in the amount of discussion a post gets as well as how many topics are posted and it's nice to have a bigger community even if it's less laser-aligned with my philosophy on all aspects and at times has a culture I need a breather from for a few minutes despite overall liking it. I enjoy community events like movie nights that you have over there a great deal and I think it's a very good thing.
The admins as a whole I cannot say. The head admin, the owner is a main lemmy dev and I also know them from reddit where they were consistently a poster with principled, quality effort years before I ever heard of this place or lemmy was really even publicly known at all. So I trust the top admin here quite a bit, if they dipped out the whole lemmyverse would notice and ideologically I trust them to an incredible amount.
Agreed. It'd probably take a full changeover of the admin team to give me any confidence that if something is wrong someone will say something... But even opening the door to possible cyberattack and doxxing of comrades is always going to be a stain on the website for me. I've been on from day 1 but I question if I will continue with the site after this -- not that it really matters if I'm there lol but still
Really malicious negligence by the admin team against the community
For a while I've fantasized about starting a new Lemmy instance, which would be either an Esperanto or Norwegian language equivalent to Hexbear. When I've spoken to comrades about this they've been interested but said they didn't have the resources for it. Depending on how the coming weeks play out I might have to adopt a Pippi Longstocking mindset on this matter...