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Hexbear DNS issue (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml to c/meta@lemmygrad.ml
 

See this post (chapo.chat is an alternate domain name for Hexbear).

Hexbear also has an official Mastodon account, where admins post updates. You can append .rss to the URL to get an RSS feed.

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[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thread on where they go from here:

https://chapo.chat/post/4470321

Right now the registrar stands to make over $2000 from auctioning this site. That's a lot more than whatever renewal HB were going to pay and once it sells for that whoever buys it then has a much higher renewal fee thereafter (hundreds of dollars a year probably) as a result of that valuation which they can in theory reap year after year. Even should the person buying it drop it immediately their hosting company stands to reap more from this one auction and year than if they'd continued to host with them for 10 years.

This was entirely a self-own on HexBear's part. A list:

  1. Their admins did not press strongly enough to get access they needed to the domain name account.

  2. Admins knowing the person having these details was flaky did not monitor things like domain renewal and such, if they had they would have noticed while the grace period was still active and could (apparently) have quickly reached the person with access within the 30 days required and fixed it. The person with access was able to be reached we see now within 2-3 days. That's not a difficult person to reach or they got damn lucky with timing.

  3. Person who had access almost certainly got some sort of notice. This either went to an unmonitored email πŸ™„ or was ignored.

  4. Their post on it here is made by an anonymous admin. Once again their admins are obfuscating, not being transparent with the userbase and acting a too much like bad actor groups like MAC on reddit in thinking themselves some appointed council of ideology and ethics in charge of their userbase and guiding them to preferred conclusions established by discussions within this secret group.

(To be fair to 4 their userbase does need guidance given how many left-libs and people who haven't read theory are there, they have let in a lot of liberalism but too often these struggles and edicts are not on principled meaningful matters like addressing the misogyny issue but on pet causes, minor tiffs, arguments over phrasing, etc)

[–] blunder@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let alone saying nothing to the community about the impending issue and mitigations (fallback sites, risk of cyberattack if continuing to use the old domain, ...)

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The lack of warning when they knew of this issue well ahead of time, the lack of accountability after it happened, and the lack of clear information have frankly undermined my trust in Hexbear's moderation team. Ultimately I still favor Hexbear's culture over Lemmygrad's, and don't know how much more trustworthy the admins here are, though.

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm glad to have both.

There are certain times I just need to be with other ML's but lemmygrad is admittedly small and therefore limited in the amount of discussion a post gets as well as how many topics are posted and it's nice to have a bigger community even if it's less laser-aligned with my philosophy on all aspects and at times has a culture I need a breather from for a few minutes despite overall liking it. I enjoy community events like movie nights that you have over there a great deal and I think it's a very good thing.

The admins as a whole I cannot say. The head admin, the owner is a main lemmy dev and I also know them from reddit where they were consistently a poster with principled, quality effort years before I ever heard of this place or lemmy was really even publicly known at all. So I trust the top admin here quite a bit, if they dipped out the whole lemmyverse would notice and ideologically I trust them to an incredible amount.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Bruh it's at 2400 dollars HOW

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hexbear down when USAID got shut down?

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the funding ran out, we really dragged our feet on diversifying into Xi Bucks πŸ˜”

[–] conc@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

What's the ratio of Stanley nickles to Xi Bucks?

[–] Mostly_Books@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Lol. What a beautiful dumpster fire of a website.

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 days ago

It's always something with hexbear

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

5 bidders in a bid war that ends in 9 days and its already at $505

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's just a ring of people who just bid up domains in collusion with the registrar.

God what a fucking shitty company. Holding your domain hostage and then you get to "bid" to get your domain back.

Fuck these assholes.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Might also mostly be domain scavenging bots that slap garbage ad sites up on high-ish traffic sites.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hexbear also shares a name with some random crypto coin, that could be a reason the bidding is going so high. random libs wanting to one up da tankies, and also crypto bros gunning for the domain.

[–] TheOtherNakoichi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

three way brawl between radlibs fascists and crypto bros lol

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

that's just one guy fighting with himself!

[–] propter_hog@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And we're just over here eating popcorn and watching the tire fire

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Crypto bros can't take the domain

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Could also be one of those freaks who have the free time and disposable money to buy the lemmygrad.com domain

[–] maodun@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

i was Not prepared to see where that redirected to. fuck

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For anyone wondering, it redirects to the website of the Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh.

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 days ago

The first words I read were

  • Show up to support Israel
  • Give to support Israel
  • Find support for you & yours [photo shows a girl with a candle holding a Zionist flag with a Zionist flag sticker on her sweater]
  • Take action to support Israel

I can't say if it's funded by AIPAC but we can at the very least clearly see where the organization's priorities lie.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Used to be a maga page earlier

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Wow that's really funny.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago
[–] TheOtherNakoichi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's at nearly $700 now. I am not one to peddle baseless weirdo conspiracy theories but this seems sus af.

What we know: The user that previously held ownership of the OG domain has ceased contact and the domain is now up for auction.

Tinfoil hat time: The deep state is going to start targeting sites and communities like this because we offer a very meager threat to them and much like us they know dissent must be eradicated at its roots.

[–] buckykat@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Simplest answer: it's the crypto scammers of hexbear.io driving it up

[–] propter_hog@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

pump-and-dump brainworms

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I really have no idea what a high traffic domain name is worth in terms of revenue from throwing garbage ads up on it. Maybe $700 isn’t out of the ordinary.

[–] CarbonScore@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It'll just be libs and maybe misguided comrades with too much money thinking the domain name actually matters. It's not like hexbear gets linked from outside that often. I hope some maligned lib pays $5k for it, realises it's worth nothing, and starts a journey where they learn to touch grass instead.

What if they train an AI on the old posts and have it continue posting under our old handles and styles in perpetuity, a Chuck-E-Cheese of leftist thought replete with beanis and PPB?

[–] forever_peace@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Let them have it, at least they cant do worse with that money. Pathetic idiots

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hexbear has an official Mastodon account at https://toots.matapacos.dog/@hexbear

Hexbear admins intermittently post updates there in case of emergencies such as this one. People wanting to follow the state of Hexbear as told by official sources should look into following this account. You can also append .rss to the URL to get an RSS feed.


@GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml please edit this information into the main post.

[–] swaggyspinozista@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

Wow they are being pretty light on the details on their Mastodon. Is "Hexbear is back up at Chapo.chat" really a good summary of this situation? Interesting choices all around

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why we must have laws against the buying and selling of domains. Domains that are unused must become collective property.

[–] invalidusernamelol@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like if a domain is active the auction should defer to the current domain users instead of immediately going public.

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Time to migrate to pigpoop.ball

this would be an excellent new domain name lol

[–] SkingradGuard@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 days ago

pigpoop.beanis

rip i was wondering why i couldn't access the site through jerboa, -_-

[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m so confused so is lemmygrad done for or?

[–] propter_hog@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lemmygrad is unrelated to Hexbear, just ideologically aligned.

[–] sallyl_mao@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So.. where will we go now???

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 days ago