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how much is a cup in non freedom units?
239.59 ml
Edit: switched out the original number for the correct number
Wow I had not even realised that this would actually be a well defined unit. I thought it was like "add a spoon of sugar" in recipes.
It happened a lot in our nation's history that folks would have relatively simple kitchens not equipped with scales or even a set of measuring cups, so eating vessels and utensils would be used. A lot of staple American baked goods like biscuits are really more about feeling the consistency of the dough than sticking to a recipe anyway, so laboratory precision is not necessary.
At some point the cup got codified as half a pint, or 8 fluid ounces, or slightly under 0.125L. A tablespoon is 1/2 of a fluid ounce and thus 1/16th of a cup. A teaspoon is 1/3 of a tablespoon.
It works out that tea- and tablespoons are ~ 4.928 and 14.786 mL respectively. The medicine industry, which actually does everything in metric and has for decades now, often writes dosing instructions in metric tea- or tablespoons of 5mL and 15mL respectively. For example, my bottle of Listerine mouthwash says in its instructions "swish 10mL (2 teapoonfuls) between your teeth for 30 seconds..."
Believe it or not we also know how long an inch is, too.
That's, like, every nation's history. Cooking has never required that much precision, especially home cooking. Even baking can be done by feel, with enough experience.
Learning to use recipes and then learning you don't need them are the two most important parts of learning how to cook imo. The first time I make something I use a recipe every time after that I do not and just go by feel/vibes unless I am trying to make something authentic.
Yeah I get why it makes sense to have recipes with "add about a cup of X", but it surprises me that someone decided to make it an official unit of an exactly defined amount
It boggles your mind that the units people were actually using became standardized?
not all cups are the same so why would anyone say "this is now the exact amount of a cup"?
The amount measured by a typical tea or coffee cup is approximately 1/2 US Pint, so when it comes time to codify it that's a reasonable place to put it.
Anything else you wish to artificially complicate?
I just realized 59.15 ml is 1/4 of a cup while 1 cup is 239.59 ml
Annoyingly, the US has two different "cups"
US legal units puts it as 240ml
US Customary Units puts it at 236.59ml
Then there's Imperial cups, which is 284.13ml
Then there's the metric cup at 250ml